docrock Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 Can you identify this? I think it's 47 desoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Skinner Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 Looks like a M5 Fluid Drive Transmission Typical of the 1946 - 1948 Chrysler and DeSoto Automobiles. Is there one or two wires going to the Kickdown Switch (At the Top of The Tranny in the first Picture) Typically One Wire to the Kickdown was a M5. Two wires to the kickdown was a M6, Typically the M6 came Later in 1948 - 1953. I am not totally sure but I believe they would function alike. The second wire in the later M6 was just grounded to the Governor. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 It's a late 1950-1953 Dodge, DeSoto or Chrysler M-6 because of the internal shoe E-brake. The date of manufacture and model of car can be found stamped into the case next to the shift cover. I could tell you make of car by looking at the end of the E-brake drum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug&Deb Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 I agree. M6 because of the drum style e-brake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 26 Author Report Share Posted October 26 I will look for the code. It came with the 48 Desoto. There is another trans in the car but it looks older. No wires on it. The motor is a 52 Chrysler Spitfire. I think it was an industrial motor. I just got some clutch and brake parts and it didn't fit against transmission. I think this trans probably was the original. I will clean it up and share the pics of both and the end where the shaft attaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoozie Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 " I just got some clutch and brake parts and it didn't fit against transmission." Where are you trying to attach the parts sent to you, on the transmission? The master cylinder gets mounted to the inside of the frame and the clutch and brake pedals slide onto the pivot pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 27 Author Report Share Posted October 27 Joe The parts fit the car but not the trans. I think it is an early trans linkage doesn't match my shifter either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoozie Posted October 27 Report Share Posted October 27 15 minutes ago, docrock said: Joe The parts fit the car but not the trans. I think it is an early trans linkage doesn't match my shifter either The parts are from 46-48 cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 27 Author Report Share Posted October 27 I will send a pic of the trans tomorrow it has linkage on it that doesn't work with the clutch and brake linkage. You will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 Here is a pic of the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 This is the side next to the fork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 This is the trans in the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 Here is a number on the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 This is the other side of the trans in the car and the linksge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kencombs Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 Looks like somebody got impatient when installing it. The broken mounting ears on the top are probably from 'helping' it slide in when it wasn't lined up well. It's just a normal standard shift. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Skinner Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 docrock, It doesn't look like my M5 Fluid Drive, after additional pictures. I really don't know what you have there Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoozie Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 And, the one linkage that goes under the clutch fork looks like someone "made" it by welding it together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 The motor has a letter code ind. From what I read it was used for an industrial application. It doesn't surprise me that the linkage is shop made. I think I will remove the trans in the car and put the other one in. There is no history on the car but it seems like the original motor died but the trans still worked. They put the industrial motor in and then stopped working on it. This car was in a wrecking yard before I got it. Let me know if I am making a mistake installing the trans that is out of the car. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 The transmission case that is in the car is junk. The internal parts may be good even if the outside is not. Look inside the spare trans before installing it. If the insides are bad and the case is good, you may be able to swap internals and make one good out of two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Dodgeb4ya Posted October 29 Solution Report Share Posted October 29 3 hours ago, docrock said: Here is a pic of the end A DeSoto M-6 trans ...late 1950 to 1953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 So neither Transmission is original. I thought 48 was the first year of the m6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 1949 was the first year of the M-6 ....1949 to early 1950 used an external brake band. Mid 1950 used internal brake shoes and drum for the E-Brake. Late 1950 to 53 had other minor misc changes too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 I found a pic on aaca that shows the m5 next to m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrock Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 My mistake this is the difference between early and late 1950 m6 transmissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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