Window Crank Handle

[colbs]

3 of the 4 window crank handles I have in my 48 Royal are missing the knob on them and I was able to find some cranks that are marked with 47 and CD so I believe they are from 47 and from Chrysler Detroit but I have no idea what they came off of originally and even though they arent from nor for my Royal that I am restoring I like the look of them and it will set my car apart but I would really like to know what they were for from factory if anyone knows! Its a stone of some sort and not bakelite

[joecoozie]

I believe the one you show is 41-42

 

 

This is the correct one for your Royal - or like it

I think the correct one has a red crown in the center of the knob. 

 

 

 

[colbs]

To be completely honest as original as my car is, I really like the look of the stone handle, any idea what model the ones I just bought are out of??

[joecoozie]

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Edited February 1, 2023 by joecoozie
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[joecoozie]

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Edited February 1, 2023 by joecoozie
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[joecoozie]

Once more......

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=1942+chrysler+royal+interior&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmomentcar.com%2Fimages%2Fchrysler-royal-1942-12.jpg#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmomentcar.com%2Fimages%2Fchrysler-royal-1942-12.jpg&action=click

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[colbs]

Sweet! I'm just 6 years older than my own car! 

[joecoozie]

It only took me 3 times to get it right......

[joecoozie]

Click on the link not the download.....

[colbs]

I was able to see it! Hope they look that good in my '48!

[Los_Control]

that was a tough nut to crack

 

Edited February 1, 2023 by Los_Control

[colbs]

Started putting in the cranks and I got to say they look rather nice!

[harmony]

Those style of window cranks are referred to as Floppers, or Flippers.  Some call them Floppers because when you're finished with them, they flop down.  Others call them Flippers because when you grab them to crank the window, they flip up.  Good luck finding some, and if you do, dig deep into your wallet. It was always my understanding that they were available on the Windsors, New Yorkers, and Travellers only.  The ones on my '48 Windsor are shaped differently and there was also a third variation that was solid metal.  I believe the plastic like material is a form or type of Lucite.

 

One word of caution:  Be very leary of buying them online. It's best to see them right in front of you before you decide to buy.  You need to inspect them very closely.  The mechanism that allows them to rotate 360 degrees as well as flip out 90 degrees is very very small and fragile.  It consists of a steel pin, about half the diameter of a pencil lead.  That pin goes through the end of a rounded over white metal shaft that is about 1/8" diameter. As you may know, white metal pits easily over time and the wall thickness between the pin opening and the outside diameter of that small shaft is super thin.  I'm guessing the designers never expected them to last 75 years.  I had one that was broken and I thought about rebuilding it but that thought went out the window once I thought through the process.  On mine there is a tiny hole on the side of the chromed section of the Flopper that in theory, when you put a tiny needle in that tiny hole, it will release that Lucite end. 

To assemble one of them you would need the hands and the patience of a watchmaker.

 

Mine are in great condition, but even so, I never use the Flopper end to crank the window.  I use my first finger and my thumb, to operate the end of the window crank, without touching the flopper part.  I've gotten so good at it I can role the window up and down pretty fast. 

I agree they look awesome, and everyone is impressed with them.  My guess is that most of them broke after a decade of regular use.  Since the kids would be in the back seat, I'm guessing they were the first to go. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by harmony

[MarcDeSoto]

I remember those flippers on my 50 Chrysler Windsor.  But mine were all chrome with no plastic.  They are plastic not stone by the way,.  Those 40s Chrysler dashboards and interiors were so deluxe!  

 

[Dodgeb4ya]

4 hours ago, harmony said:

Those style of window cranks are referred to as Floppers, or Flippers.  Some call them Floppers because when you're finished with them, they flop down.  Others call them Flippers because when you grab them to crank the window, they flip up.  Good luck finding some, and if you do, dig deep into your wallet. It was always my understanding that they were available on the Windsors, New Yorkers, and Travellers only.  The ones on my '48 Windsor are shaped differently and there was also a third variation that was solid metal.  I believe the plastic like material is a form or type of Lucite.

 

One word of caution:  Be very leary of buying them online. It's best to see them right in front of you before you decide to buy.  You need to inspect them very closely.  The mechanism that allows them to rotate 360 degrees as well as flip out 90 degrees is very very small and fragile.  It consists of a steel pin, about half the diameter of a pencil lead.  That pin goes through the end of a rounded over white metal shaft that is about 1/8" diameter. As you may know, white metal pits easily over time and the wall thickness between the pin opening and the outside diameter of that small shaft is super thin.  I'm guessing the designers never expected them to last 75 years.  I had one that was broken and I thought about rebuilding it but that thought went out the window once I thought through the process.  On mine there is a tiny hole on the side of the chromed section of the Flopper that in theory, when you put a tiny needle in that tiny hole, it will release that Lucite end. 

To assemble one of them you would need the hands and the patience of a watchmaker.

 

Mine are in great condition, but even so, I never use the Flopper end to crank the window.  I use my first finger and my thumb, to operate the end of the window crank, without touching the flopper part.  I've gotten so good at it I can role the window up and down pretty fast. 

I agree they look awesome, and everyone is impressed with them.  My guess is that most of them broke after a decade of regular use.  Since the kids would be in the back seat, I'm guessing they were the first to go. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are smart to use your finger and thumb to save all wear and tear on those lavalier handles.

That's how I have saved mine for the last 40 years on my T&C.

I have collected several styles of those 1942-1954 Chrysler inner floppy handles. I'm covered for the rest of my life if one wears out.

Edited February 12, 2023 by Dodgeb4ya

[Dodgeb4ya]

Some more of those hard to find 40's to early 50's Chrysler inner handles....some long sedans,  some short (convert/ cpe rear 1/4) ect...

The full chrome 1949-53 handles had two different assembly types.

The  1942 handles came in different colors and patterns.

Really nice and tight 1942-48 window handles probably worth $250.00 a piece if you can find some.?

[harmony]

10 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said:

You are smart to use your finger and thumb to save all wear and tear on those lavalier handles.

That's how I have saved mine for the last 40 years on my T&C.

I have collected several styles of those 1942-1954 Chrysler inner floppy handles. I'm covered for the rest of my life if one wears out.

Opps, yes I forgot to mention that the Town and Country had them too.

[Masa]

On 2/12/2023 at 7:28 AM, Dodgeb4ya said:

Some more of those hard to find 40's to early 50's Chrysler inner handles....some long sedans,  some short (convert/ cpe rear 1/4) ect...

The full chrome 1949-53 handles had two different assembly types.

The  1942 handles came in different colors and patterns.

Really nice and tight 1942-48 window handles probably worth $250.00 a piece if you can find some.?

 

Hi, this thread is maybe not valid anymore but I will try anyway: I live in sweden and did some cool barn finds during the summer. I am not collecting old car stuff but bought some "nice-looking" parts anyway rather cheap.. The owner of the barn just open up a type of fleamarket and I found the stuff in a bucket-  the owner did not know what kind of stuff it was and neither me until I googled some weeks later to found out.  The stuff I found was 1) A crank handle exactly as the upper one with a clear lucite and full functional foldable and fitting a Chrysler Windsor 48 (?) 2) A hood ornnament to Buick 1934 in bronze, 3) A hood ornament/radiator shell to Chevrolet Master 1935.

 

What I can understand from reading some different forums, scanning ebay etc - is that these stuff can be of interest for people renovating old us cars and in some cases hard to find. Im not familiar in what forums or how I best can reach out to sell these items to people that searches for these kind of stuff. Is Ebay the best way or are there some forums on facebook that collectors and people use or other blogs?

I can post some pictures of my stuff if that will be of interest,

rgds

M Sandell