uncleaud Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Has anyone had trouble with the linings on their new brake shoes being too thick to let the drums back on? I've had the drums surfaced and shoes arched to drums, new cylinders, rechecked the push pins, centered the assembly with tool, and all adjustments are set at the minimum diameter and still the drums won't go on. Options that I have considered (1) cutting the notch in the shoes deeper. (2) shortening the push pins (not sure if that would effect centering with stationary anchor bolt) seems option 1 and 2 would have the same effect on the centering(3) taking a belt sander to shoes. Anybody know what the thickness of the shoe lining is to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoozie Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Check out this thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Too thick of linings is a very common occurance. The correct maximun lining thickness is listed in the factory shop manual. Brake re-liners don't seem to know the correct thickness required sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 my book shows the Saratoga having 2" wide linings at 3/16 thick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleaud Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Plymouthy Adams said: my book shows the Saratoga having 2" wide linings at 3/16 thick... That is what mine measures but the old ones taken off were closer to 1/8th and the drums fit over them with resistance but still turns. I'm thinking I may have to go the belt sander route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 You need to learn the major adjustment procedure.... Search here...on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Buchanan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said: You need to learn the major adjustment procedure.... Search here...on the forum. https://p15-d24.com/page/p15d24/tech/brakes.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kencombs Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) I don't understand how shoes were arced and still be too big. The first step in arc grinding is measuring the drum. The the shoes are ground to fit that diameter. And lining thickness will make no difference in the fit if done in that fashion. At least that is what I've always understood. Otherwise, arc grinding would be of no use. Explanation anyone? To the OP: when your shoes are installed and adjusted to the minimum, what is the measurement overall compared to the drum ID? Maybe a return trip to the grinder is in order. Edited October 28, 2022 by kencombs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Buchanan Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 I suspect you are going to be shortening or notching the cylinder pins as necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution uncleaud Posted October 29, 2022 Author Solution Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 20 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said: You need to learn the major adjustment procedure.... Search here...on the forum. I've read and understand the major adjustment....I had to slightly notch the passenger side, less than a 16th and was then able to put it all together and finish the adjustment procedure. The drivers side all fit together without any modification. All I had to measure the drums with was my tape measure and it appeared that the passenger side drum was a tight 11 inches, by tight I mean only the thickness of the line, and the drivers side was a even 11 inches. Anyway, all is well that ends well. Thanks for the comments and patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 If you have a eight cylinder Saratoga Chrysler you have undersize drums...by one inch!? Saratoga's use 12" drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 my book did not state drum size only the length of the linging and being some 2+ inches extra lining length, I figured it would have had the larger drums....thanks for the info..going to pencil that into my margins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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