Hoodlace installation

[Cudan]

Hi all,

for my 1948 p15 I ordered by Bermbaum the hoodlace, 2 laces, 1 thicker than the other, with fabric between. See pic.

 

some questions before installation.

 

Which lace side, the thicker or the smaller is to the windowside,  according the pic the thicker lace side is to the window side ?

 

do i have to instal the lace tight to the firewall edge or a little bit before ? See pic.

 

thanks Dan

 

 

 

 

[harmony]

The thicker dia. side goes towards the windshield.  I too replaced mine last year and I also got it from AB.  As for installing it, since you're asking about where it goes, I'm assuming that it is missing from your car and you just have the holes.  Hopefully you have the fasteners, because I've never seen them available anywhere.  I'll take some pictures today for you and post them tonight.  I also have some pictures of taking it off so you can see where it was situated.  Off the top of my head I think I just poked the hole right in the centre of the fabric between the two humps. 

Edited March 5, 2022 by harmony

[Cudan]

Hi Harmony,

 

thanks for your answer, there ar holes from the vormer fastners but i don t know off the holes are in original factory position. I am looking forward for the pics ?

Dan

[desoto1939]

Yes the indent area is where you will use a stainless steel flat pan head screw to go throught the material and thn into th emeatl of the cowl.  Use the same location as the previous owner used.  On my 39 Desoto the metal screw had a slot on the top to resemble a flat headed screw but when I took them out there were really a serrated rivet with a point and then the regular slotted head for a screwdriver.

 

Do the best that you can becasue most people will not know what. is correct or not. I will post pictures of the modling that I have installed onmy 39 Desoto.

 

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[harmony]

On my car there is about a half an inch between the fabric and that step in the body towards the windshield.  The fastener is pretty unique in that it is spiral shaped.  They made two different versions for whatever reason.  My car had ones without a slot so the head looks like a rivet.  My parts car had a slot in the head. I was only missing a couple, so I did one side of the car with slot head and the other side with blank head.  

I suppose you could use a small self taping screw, but you might have an issue because I think the hole is pretty big because of the shape of the fastener.  So that might mean you would have to use a large self taping screw, meaning the head might be too big to fit between the two humps.  Just a thought.

[Sniper]

Thanks for the picture, they are called screw nails or flat-head Type 21 screws

 

https://www.mcmaster.com/type-21-drive-screws/

[harmony]

37 minutes ago, Sniper said:

Thanks for the picture, they are called screw nails or flat-head Type 21 screws

 

https://www.mcmaster.com/type-21-drive-screws/

Cool, how about that.  They sort of push in and turn maybe a total of 90 degrees before they seat, if I remember correctly.

[Cudan]

Thanks all,

 

This info and pics is what I needed to do the proper installation ?

 

Dan

 

[RobertKB]

I am quite sure Restoration Specialties has the correct fasteners as well if you need them.

 

Use the holes there already as it’s easy enough to line things up. I’ve replaced hood lace on three cars and it’s very strait forward. 

[Sniper]

I went out and took a picture of my P23's windlace.  Not teh same as yours, might help you or someone else nonetheless.

 

In my case there is a body line the rear of the windlace butts up to.  Though my seal is rubber it still uses those Type 21 screws.

 

[chrysleritis]

Ditto for Restoration Specialties. They have them. They have lots of weird fasteners.