Brake Anchor Bolts & Clutch Brake return Springs

[Ed McDermott]

I recently acquired a 48 Dodge Custom in reasonably good shape.  I have two questions that I am seeking help on.

Question #1 is on brake anchor bolts.  I have rebuilt the front passenger side brake with modest problems.  On the drivers side both of the anchor bolts have some stripping  and the nuts do not thread on very far.  I have cleaned them but not much improvement .  I have ordered a  9/16 x 18 re-threading die which I hope will help.  If not the problem get worse.  I have not found replacement anchor bolts available on line and   is there any possible source?  If not is there a solution?  I have considered re-threading to 1/2 x 20 but not sure if I can cut the bolt down and be structurally safe.  Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

Problem # 2 involves the clutch and return springs location.  Two photos attached for reference.

The car had a new master cylinder installed before it was shipped to me from an estate  sale in Michigan,  but the clutch and return springs were loose on the floor.  I have reviewed the shop manual page 54, 55 and 56 but do not see attachment points for one end  of the long springs and the master cylinder does not have a attachment point on it for one of the long springs.  For the  third short spring, it is not clear to me as to were it goes when I look at the car.  I have remove the floor plate and been under the car but am having trouble figuring out were the springs go.  Does anybody have pictures of a fully assembled brake clutch area or could you look at the attached photos and comment or mark up the spring locations.  Thank you in advance.

Ed

[keithb7]

Is this helpful? From my "38 book.

 

[keithb7]

Sorry, I realize now you have the later, different master cylinder.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by keithb7

[Doug&Deb]

Can’t help with the clutch springs but the brake bolts are available. Try Andy Bernbaums or Roberts Motor Parts. I recommend replacing all the hardware on the brakes. Safety first.

[Cannuck]

I took pictures but it won.t allow me insert photos .I have run into this problem before it only allows 3 MB sorry.

[desoto1939]

ed I am assumig that when you state anchor bolts you are referring to the two eccentic pins that go through the hole on the end or otherwise known as the heel end of the brake shoe.

 

These are not complettely round pins they are eccentric and when turned becasue of being eccentric slight out of round they move the heel of the brake show down and out or up and inward to help with the adjustment of the shoe to make a perfect contact with the drum.

 

Hope this helps to decribe what you are looking for.

 

Rich Hartung

[Ed McDermott]

Thanks all.

First time using this forum and I responded to the report post.

I have read them all and found some useful info.  The picture maybe useful and will print out and give feedback.

Andy Bernbaum I believe no longer has the anchor bolts.  On ebay there are some pickup truck ones but there to small.

I realize that the bolts have an eccentric shape.

you can resize pictures down to 70% of orginal and then they will fit with paint or paint prush pro .

Ed

[ggdad1951]

please do not "report post" as it flag the post as having an issue with our community standards.  Just hit "reply".

[Hickory]

Well Ed  I'm about 2 hrs away and have some sitting on my rear end I just pulled to do a Cherokee update 

Edited August 22, 2020 by Hickory
Typo

[Ed McDermott]

Hi Hickory

Yes I am interested.  The rear brakes are a little different from the front.  I have attached a photo of the two front anchor bolts for my 48 dodge .  Are your bolts near this size?  I am interested anyway since I have the rear brakes to do and may find the same problem with them.

Thanks Ed

[Doug&Deb]

Try Ed Spiegel in PA. He has 3 warehouses full of NOS parts. I forgot the phone number. Perhaps someone else can help.

[Hickory]

Let me look threw the mess I call a garage, I removed the fronts also so I may have all 4 backing plates and drums but the shoes and cylinders were no good

[Daniel L]

I have a 47 P15 and have run into the same problem with my clutch return spring, where is it supposed to hook to?

[Conn47D24]

On the pedal shaft there should be this tear drop shaped ring with a hole to hook the spring to.

[Ed McDermott]

Hi Hickory

Yes I am interested.  The rear brakes are a little different from the front.  I have attached a photo of the two front anchor bolts for my 48 dodge .  Are your bolts near this size?  I am interested anyway since I have the rear brakes to do and may find the same problem with them.

Thanks Ed

[Ed McDermott]

Thanks to Conn47D24 and others  for the images as I am missing that part along with the over spring arm which is available on ebay.

I have collected here 4 images that maybe useful to others.

 

[Hickory]

I sent a PM

[Ed McDermott]

update

item #1 Re-threading die cleaned up anchor bolts to serviceable condition.

Item #2  Chrysler Mater technician reference image on springs.