Can you name this part?

[MarcDeSoto]

Here's a little trivia question that might be hard to answer.  Can you name this part that I bought decades ago for my 48 DeSoto business coupe?  I don't know if I'll ever need it, but if I do, I've got a good NOS MoPar part!   

[greg g]

King pin reamer?

 

[MarcDeSoto]

Greg, that's actually very good guess!  No, nothing to do with king pins and it's not a tool.  

[maok]

A drive adaptor for the distributor from the cam?

[MarcDeSoto]

That's what I thought at first, but no, has nothing to do with the distributor or the oil pump.  

[Andydodge]

Left hand rotation thingymabob.............specifically the NASCAR option version...............will go take my meds now & sit quietly in my corner........lol........andyd

[maok]

That corner gets a good workout with you Andy...lol

I just build my bad Karma for when I am 6 feet under...lol

[Plymouthy Adams]

the thing with Andy is....he is already down under......

[MarcDeSoto]

I knew this was going to be kind of hard, but I bet Dodgeb4you would know what it is.  Andy, as a former teacher, I'm assigning you to two hours in the detention room.  

[Plymouthy Adams]

kickdown governor pinion

[Plymouthy Adams]

tell me I do not get time out as did Andy.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Looks like Marc woosed out and fell asleep.....

Edited June 24, 2020 by Plymouthy Adams

[MarcDeSoto]

1 hour ago, Plymouthy Adams said:

kickdown governor pinion

 

yes you got it Adams!  the business end of the governor pinion meshes into the a gear on the countershaft of the transmission and turns the governor points at the speed of the car.  If the car is going over 14 mph in the high range, the governor points open which cuts off the power of the electromagnet in the transmission relay, which cuts the power to the solenoid and allows the oil pump in the transmission to complete the upshift when you release your foot from the accelerator.  

[Andydodge]

Maok & Plymouthy......I've got some spare meds...........you wanna join me.........lol..................Mark.....only 2 hrs?..........lol.........andyd

[Dodgeb4ya]

And a part that really never wears out..

[Plymouthy Adams]

7 hours ago, Andydodge said:

Maok & Plymouthy......I've got some spare meds...........you wanna join me.........lol..................Mark.....only 2 hrs?..........lol.........andyd

 

 

I'll have my voices contact your voices.....!

[Andydodge]

LOL.........not sure whether to offer you an encouragement award or not Plymouthy...............lol.........andyd

[MarcDeSoto]

12 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said:

And a part that really never wears out..

Yes, they said these M-5s and M-6s never wear out, but can develop problems if you are not lucky.  Electrical problems are what you hope to have rather than mechanical problems inside the transmission case.  I've never heard very much from guys who have the Fluid Torque Drives.  I think they came out in 1952.  because the fluid drive torque converter used the same oil as the engine, and oil change would use a lot of oil, maybe 11 quarts or so.  Are these couplers much better than the pre-52 fluid drives?

[Dodgeb4ya]

Those M5/M6 transmissions definitely do wear out.

I have rebuilt many of them over the years.

Inputshaft/blocker rings/ clutch sleeves, brinneled  countershafts and oil pumps are common wear parts.

As for the FTD torque converters ...yes the cheaper Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler cars did use the 10 quart combined engine oil system and was not too reliable.

Mainly Six cylinder cars used it and the V8 Dodge and DeSoto's too.

The main issue was oil loss leakage at the adapter plate resulting in engine damage and or converter noise and failure.

The 52 on up Chrysler's with FTD (actually just like a typical 60's torque converter) had it's own separate 10 quart capacity system....the converter with a 2 quart sump underneath the converter.

The FTD converter with the modified M6  gears is wonderful as acceleration is much quicker that of a regular Fluid Drive coupling from a dead stop.