Don Jordan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 I have a 47 & 48 P15. The 47 has an insert oil filter but the 48 has a self contained canister. They are $40 on line and a pain in the butt to change. I've been looking around to find a holder that will accept a cheaper insert but I must be looking in the wrong places. When I was a kid we used to buy Fram oil containers that would take roll of toilet paper. I guess that was shown to be a faulty concept. But that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they are called but Robertsons doesn't have any. I would appreciate any leads - thanks Quote
knuckleharley Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 I have a 47 & 48 P15. The 47 has an insert oil filter but the 48 has a self contained canister. They are $40 on line and a pain in the butt to change. I've been looking around to find a holder that will accept a cheaper insert but I must be looking in the wrong places. When I was a kid we used to buy Fram oil containers that would take roll of toilet paper. I guess that was shown to be a faulty concept. But that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they are called but Robertsons doesn't have any. I would appreciate any leads - thanks You can buy a new high-quality cannister oil filter for your 47 from Rock Auto and NAPA,to name just two suppliers. You can even buy them from Advance Auto,Car Quest,and O'Reilley's if you are willing to order. NAPA dealers seem to keep them in stock. I just bought two yesterday for my flathead 6 51 Ford for $16.99 each at my local NAPA store. And of course they come with new rubber gaskets. 2 Quote
Reg Evans Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 KNUCKLEHARLEY, CAN YOU POST A PHOTO OF THE FILTERS YOU JUST BOUGHT ? THANKS, REG Quote
knuckleharley Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 KNUCKLEHARLEY, CAN YOU POST A PHOTO OF THE FILTERS YOU JUST BOUGHT ? THANKS, REG They are still out in my truck and it is dark and cold out there,so here is a ebay link to one for sale instead. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FOR A FORD,NOT A PLYMOUTH http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/141802646258?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82 Here is a list of various filters that will work with your 47 Plymouth. APCO AP-231 Fram C-231PL AC P-320 Purolator P-40 Wix PC-88 Hope this helps. Quote
knuckleharley Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 I have a 47 & 48 P15. The 47 has an insert oil filter but the 48 has a self contained canister. They are $40 on line and a pain in the butt to change. I've been looking around to find a holder that will accept a cheaper insert but I must be looking in the wrong places. When I was a kid we used to buy Fram oil containers that would take roll of toilet paper. I guess that was shown to be a faulty concept. But that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they are called but Robertsons doesn't have any. I would appreciate any leads - thanks BTW,here is a link to a post on this board that lists the various oil filters that fit P-15's,and even gives dimensions. http://p15-d24.com/topic/26433-p15-oil-filter-assemblyaccessory/ Quote
_shel_ny Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 I have a 47 & 48 P15. The 47 has an insert oil filter but the 48 has a self contained canister. They are $40 on line and a pain in the butt to change. I've been looking around to find a holder that will accept a cheaper insert but I must be looking in the wrong places. When I was a kid we used to buy Fram oil containers that would take roll of toilet paper. I guess that was shown to be a faulty concept. But that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they are called but Robertsons doesn't have any. I would appreciate any leads - thanks take your pick. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xoil+filter+canister+mopar+1948.TRS0&_nkw=oil+filter+canister+mopar+1948&_sacat=0 Quote
Jerry Roberts Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 Also used canisters can be found at swap meets and wrecking yards that have older vehicles . Quote
Don Jordan Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Posted January 6, 2016 Mr. Shel, I bought the one on e bay. Thanks for the lead. I checked around auto parts stores and most didn't know what I was talking about. They tried to sell me an adapter for a screw on filter - probably would have worked but I like the one that looked a little more stock. thanks again, d- Quote
captden29 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 I get the filter for my 54 Windsor with the 265ci at advance. when I see the conventional oil on sale for 17.99 for the jug, it comes with any filter that costs up to 13.00, and the filter for my car costs 11.99. I then get 15% off with the speed perks plan so it is a very good buy.car quest may have the same deal as they are the same company now. capt den Quote
Robert Horne Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I have a 47 & 48 P15. The 47 has an insert oil filter but the 48 has a self contained canister. They are $40 on line and a pain in the butt to change. I've been looking around to find a holder that will accept a cheaper insert but I must be looking in the wrong places. When I was a kid we used to buy Fram oil containers that would take roll of toilet paper. I guess that was shown to be a faulty concept. But that's what I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they are called but Robertsons doesn't have any. I would appreciate any leads - thanks "Frantz" made an oil filter canister that took the role of toilet paper. The unit is a very well made, quality fittings, etc. I have not used this one yet, so I do not know how well it would work.... Quote
desoto1939 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I know they made the toilet paper filter system but I would suggest tht you get a real dropin filter like what was suggested in an earlier posting. Remember TP is meant to breakdown in the sewer system so I would be questionable to how it would hold up with hot oil and then if it would break apart. The real filters are not that expensive in the long run so why take a chance. So did you win the MoPAr oil filter canister that was listed on ebay. Rich Hartung 1 Quote
knuckleharley Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 "Remember TP is meant to breakdown in the sewer system so I would be questionable to how it would hold up with hot oil and then if it would break apart." Excellent Point! Quote
Don Jordan Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Posted January 14, 2016 I got the one on e bay but since I just put a new filter on so I think I'll wait for the next oil change before I put it on. It has brackets welded on; I don't know if it will fit but I can assure you IT WILL FIT. Quote
Robert Horne Posted January 24, 2016 Report Posted January 24, 2016 "Remember TP is meant to breakdown in the sewer system so I would be questionable to how it would hold up with hot oil and then if it would break apart." Excellent Point! With the Frantz oil system, the TP is packed very tight, very little chance of breaking down, even in hot oil. A person could use the canister with a regular type cartridge though, TP is 4 inch high, 4 inch wide. The negative part of the Frantz system, is the TP needs to be changed at 500 mile intervals. There, one would lose nearly a quart of oil every 500 miles, and what would you do with a role of oil soaked TP.. I could put it in my wood/coal stove and heat my shop I guess............... I talked to a guy using this system for 10 years, with not changing the oil, just adding a quart as needed... Now I understand what he was doing, but to add a quart of oil, and a new role of TP, every 500 miles would not save any $$...... Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 24, 2016 Report Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) I am not now or ever been convinced on the effectiveness of a TP filter...get one with wet with oil or with water ..it swells and turns to mush...the ability to filter and flow is compromised in my opinion...I think the minute it reaches saturation the by pass is now in effect and oil flow is now by passed the filter completely. IF TP were such an effective method you would find this in the modern filters of today...to that end I will say I do not think you will find this inside a replacement oil filter cartridge..much less be fully comprised of said material Edited January 24, 2016 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
dpollo Posted January 24, 2016 Report Posted January 24, 2016 I traced two engine failures in the same car to a bypass oil filter installed with the lines reversed. The contents of the filter element were then forced back into the pan where it was in turn picked up and blocked the annulus in each of the end main bearings which quickly resulted in bearing failure on #s 1 and 6. The residue in the pan had the consistency of wet toilet paper and this convinced me that it was not something I would want loose in the engine. In this case, it would have been better not to use a filter at all. Needless to say , the "mechanic" in this case was not the sharpest knife in the drawer but everyone makes mistakes. Many different elements can be used in bypass filters as long as they seal around the center post. Tractor and industrial sales counters may be of more help than a modern "auto supply" . Baldwin P 73 is a filter I have been using in recent years. Part numbers have changed in recent years so I am reluctant to list them out here. 1 Quote
Robert Horne Posted January 26, 2016 Report Posted January 26, 2016 I read that the Baldwin P73 oil filter is "made in the USA", whereas who knows what part of the world many other filters come from. I like to open up my used oil filters to see how they are made and what may be going on in my engine. . I am keeping an open mind with the Frantz system and may add one later. I bought two complete units for $20 several years ago.... http://www.frantzoil.com/home.html Quote
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