55 Fargo Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 Bought this heavy homemade engine stand at the local "dump" today. $10, it is very havy steel built. Think this is heavy enough for a flathead 6? I may have to weld in a support, on the pedestal, but this sucker is heavy duty.... 1 Quote
Don Coatney Posted July 20, 2014 Report Posted July 20, 2014 If it is "HEAVY DUTY" why would you have to weld in a support? Quote
55 Fargo Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Posted July 20, 2014 Your absolutely correct Don, just though a support on the pedestal on 45 degrees forwad, may help this sucker from tipping over forwards. The metal is super heavy, the welds look great, will find out, the price was right...... Quote
Niel Hoback Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 A gusset on the bottom of the post certainly wouldn't hurt anything if it doesn't get in the way. No such thing as too much safety. Quote
mrwrstory Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 A gusset on the bottom of the post certainly wouldn't hurt anything if it doesn't get in the way. No such thing as too much safety. Amen! Looks like it was well used. That's a good sign. However, the flame cut plate looks crude and the existing gussets are weak. I would worry about the welds. Extra gusset won't hurt. Keep your feet clear and be ready to move,...F A S T ! Quote
55 Fargo Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Posted July 21, 2014 Amen! Looks like it was well used. That's a good sign. However, the flame cut plate looks crude and the existing gussets are weak. I would worry about the welds. Extra gusset won't hurt. Keep your feet clear and be ready to move,...F A S T ! That crude cut plate as you so "astutely" describe is a 1/2 inch thick, it is total overkill. The gussets are small, but the welding on this stand looks good, as long as it penetrated. You don't get metal this heavy and thick, when you buy new stands, especially the HF type. Thanx for the free critique Bill. Quote
wayfarer Posted July 21, 2014 Report Posted July 21, 2014 I'll add my 2¢... the legs look a bit short and not near wide enough for me, the design could be a stability issue regardless of how well used it might be. IMHO, the small bar stock pieces trying to act as gussets need to be replaced, but, given all what I see, I'd probably just start over. Tipping over or having a structural failure occur will raise you heart rate. Quote
55 Fargo Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Posted September 4, 2014 Here's the beefed new improved version good for about a ton or more... Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 Fred, That new and improved stand looks great! That stand will hold the weight of two wimpy little Mopar flathead sixes no problem! It probably won't hold a 793F cat engine though Quote
48Dodger Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Looks great Fred! Bet the paint was almost the same cost as the stand.... 48D P.s. Might want to watch out for your lunch on the counter space....you have a bandit on your left standing perfectly still! Edited September 4, 2014 by 48dodger Quote
Don Coatney Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 Looks heavy duty now. Whatchagonna hang on it? Quote
pflaming Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 I noticed the Japanese toy dump truck and trailer. You ought to photo that and start a " Show us your toy trucks" thread. Extra points to Mopar toys. I lost all my toy trucks in the infernal. Quote
55 Fargo Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Posted September 10, 2014 Guys the stand is for hanging a 251 engine on, not the least bit concerned about it's strength. I do have a bit of concern on the length issue, but the main post, and gussets should be fairly center of gravity. I do think the attachments on the 360 degree swivel plate, need to be reversed to the back side of the plate, which is 5/8 thick steel. This would allow, the engine to hang 3 inches back, and keeping the wait more center. I would think the weight capacity of this stand is a lot higher than the Horrible Fright stands.... Quote
wayfarer Posted September 11, 2014 Report Posted September 11, 2014 Guys the stand is for hanging a 251 engine on, not the least bit concerned about it's strength. I do have a bit of concern on the length issue, but the main post, and gussets should be fairly center of gravity. You really need to study the subject of 'Statics'. The center of gravity will never be anywhere close to the column with any engine hanging on the plate, let alone a 25". If the CG even approaches the end of the legs you risk having the damned thing tip over. I strongly urge you to re-evaluate the design for the intended use and make any needed corrections. Perhaps an instructor at your local Junior College would go through the process with you. Safety First. Quote
55 Fargo Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Posted September 12, 2014 You really need to study the subject of 'Statics'. The center of gravity will never be anywhere close to the column with any engine hanging on the plate, let alone a 25". If the CG even approaches the end of the legs you risk having the damned thing tip over. I strongly urge you to re-evaluate the design for the intended use and make any needed corrections. Perhaps an instructor at your local Junior College would go through the process with you. Safety First. Yah,I'll get right on"back to School",think the stand will be fine,if not, will not use it. It is heavy enough to hang my truck on it, am not the least be concerned,but if she is tipsy, will support the front of the engine,no big deal. Don't think I will be going to visit any of the local Tech Schools, maybe a friggin wrecking yard........LOL Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 ...If the CG even approaches the end of the legs you risk having the damned thing tip over... Those legs look long enough to reach comfortably past the centre of a 25" block, and all that weight in the post end will pull the centre of gravity back (safer) even further. I wouldn't mind the legs to be a few inches further apart but that stand looks pretty good to go as as. Quote
wayfarer Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Those legs look long enough to reach comfortably past the centre of a 25" block, and all that weight in the post end will pull the centre of gravity back (safer) even further. I wouldn't mind the legs to be a few inches further apart but that stand looks pretty good to go as as. ...you must have different photos than I do....the legs look short and w/o a tape measure hard to tell but the OP is happy so have at it. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Which stand would you want..... Fred's stand or a "Horror Freight" stand? I'd take Freds stand any day over the crap made these days. Quote
Niel Hoback Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Hmmmmm, I gotta agree with the short legged people. I would like them a little longer, like the length of the block. I wore steel toed safety shoes with metatarsal guards for forty years, I'm sensitive to heavy things hitting the floor around my feet. 1 Quote
Don Coatney Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 I wear size 15 extra wide shoes. I have never found steel toed shoes that fit. I have tried several and after just a few minutes I remove them as blisters form on my squeezed pinky. I am over 6 feet tall. I have never found an engine stand tall enough for me to work comfortably. I find it much easier to rebuild an engine on a work bench. When I need to move it I just flop it over. And while I am at it, why are all electrical outlets placed close to the floor by code where they are hard to reach and not accessible for most usage? Why are kitchen and bathroom counter tops placed too low by code to make usage uncomfortable? Why are outside hose bibs placed so close to the ground that they are difficult to reach? Why are GFCI receptacles required by code in garages? Enough for now, I will get off my soap box. Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Hey Fred, could do us a favour and measure the horizontal distance from the mounting flange to the end of the legs? Thanks. 1 Quote
55 Fargo Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Hey Guys, got a chance to take pics and measurements. 1 note prior to the actual overall length, mount position etc. This stand is made from very heavy US or Canada made steel, not some Chinese crap. The mounting plate is 5/8 thick steel, the gussets to support the main post are 1/2 inch, the welds are excellent. The legs are a bit short, will lengthen, or possibly add 2leg extensions out on a 30 degree angle, something that could be removable for stowage,and when hanging a shorter V8, won't need the extra length. Some pics..... Edited September 17, 2014 by Fargos-Go-Far Quote
55 Fargo Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Posted September 17, 2014 Here is a straight 8 on a cheap stand... Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted September 17, 2014 Report Posted September 17, 2014 That stand is way safe! I'd mount a chrysler eight on that! 36" leg length. It looked like a nice size stand and is. Bob 1 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted September 17, 2014 Report Posted September 17, 2014 Here's a 1934 CW Airflow 385ci Big Big eight on a real H-duty engine stand. I had to modify it for extra length for this long heavy straight eight. Quote
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