knuckleharley Posted May 8, 2014 Report Posted May 8, 2014 I agree with you to a point that it is a survivor and would be neat to leave but as time goes the rust and corrosion will just get worse and like I said I don't know if I could bring myself to leaving it like that. I kind of look at it, that if im going to mess with it then im going to fix it right. Speaking for myself,leaving one "original" means not modifying or doing cosmetic repairs,but it's ok to do whatever you have to do to preserve the car from deteriorating any further. Everybody has their own ideas what that means. To some people it means sanding away rust and using spray bombs to paint the repaired area to keep it from rusting again. To others it might mean lightly sanding and then spraying the whole car with a couple of coats of clear. The cool thing about original driver cars is there ain't so many damn rules. If your 38 just happens to have a 1952 engine in it,nobody really cares. Drive it and have fun. Quote
omiotek Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Posted May 8, 2014 I'll give you the story when I get on lunch Quote
omiotek Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Posted May 8, 2014 Here is the story. My fiance and I were looking at vintage limos and we found s bently coupe that she absolutely fell in love with. Well the price to rent for the day was pretty expensive. I was talking to my dad about it and even he thought it was expensive. Well about 3 weeks later I got subtext from my dabrakes sng what about this for your wedding followed by an eBay link. Obviously the link had the car. The first thing that came to mind was holy crap everything is there and in good shape. So periodically I would bid on the item and when it came down to the final seconds of bidding I put in the most I was willing to pay for it and got it by 121.91 over the border under me and lower then my max bid. If anyone looked st the link I posted on page 2 of my Subaru build you would understand how bad my ocd can be somtines. That car is no where close to bring as awesome this car but I wanted to fix it up and make it nice again. We picked the car up out of Michigan just north of flint. The owner prior to who I bought it from kept it in a barn and there is some obvious signs of it. The man I bought it from kept it in a garage and he just doednt have the time for it. My fiance loves thud car even in it's current condition but I definatley dont want to leave it as is. There's mold on the interior a few rust holes and so forth and I'm not ok with clearing chipping cracking fotinaed paint. It just seems like an utter waste of money to me to do that. I appreciate survivors but this car isn't in the condition to leave it like that in my opinion. My ocd would walk passed the car and sooner or later would drive me insane with the rust and cracked paint and rotten passenger windows. I personally believe this car should be restored and while the damages aren't bad I would love to just take care of it now. I don't plan on selling this unless I 150% have to. The journey to me of rebuilding a great driver is just important as having the finished car. it will see some upgrades like disk front brakes and a stainless exhaust but it will mostly be kept original and true to it's original nature. Only thing that definitely wont remain is the original color. I have a very nice paint job planned out for it. Quote
knuckleharley Posted May 8, 2014 Report Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) "I personally believe this car should be restored .." Then that is what you should do. Edited May 8, 2014 by knuckleharley Quote
fstfish66 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 congrats on your find,, if you are in carol stream in ill,,,,i use to work there,,,,to cold for me,,,lol Quote
omiotek Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Posted May 9, 2014 congrats on your find,, if you are in carol stream in ill,,,,i use to work there,,,,to cold for me,,,lol Thats where i am. I like the seasonal change but I also do a lot of winter activities such as snowboarding so i don't mind it. The only thing that pisses me off is the roller coaster weather. Quote
omiotek Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Posted May 9, 2014 "I personally believe this car should be restored .." Then that is what you should do. Thanks and thats what i am going to do. Like i said i appreciate survivors but i tend to not look at them the same as when i see someones hard work put into a restoration to make a absolute beauty and make them look like they did back in the day or better. Quote
Ricky Luke Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 My fiance loves thud car even in it's current condition...Lol -the same here. When I was offered the Chrysler my wife said she really liked the style. I thought "great - thats half the battle won..."Rick Quote
omiotek Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Posted May 9, 2014 so true..... i mean she say it and shes like you know i always thought it would be cool to have a really really old car like that. im like great so i can buy it and fix it and there wont be complaints haha. she even offered to help me work on it Quote
Tones52 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 Welcome and congrats on on the '38, the pending nuptials and all in between. After checking out your Subaru link, your '38 is going to be in for quite a treat and it will look awesome on your wedding day. And thanks to you and Paul for the MC advice from the other day's chat session. That was a big help. Looking forward to seeing the continued progress on your Chrysler. Good luck! Tony Quote
omiotek Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Posted May 9, 2014 Your welcome tony. Like I said my knowledge is somewhat limited with these older cars but I try to help where I can. I'll definately be putting my heart and soul into this like I do with everything Thanks for the positive responses everyone Quote
omiotek Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Posted May 11, 2014 Does anyone know where I can source 12 volt parts for this engine Quote
RobertKB Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 Does anyone know where I can source 12 volt parts for this engine Why do you want to go 12 Volts? There is nothing wrong with 6 Volts if you have good connections and the proper thickness battery cables for starting. All four of my old Mopars are 6 Volt and I have no problems. Personally, I recommend staying with 6 Volts as there are a lot of conversion issues otherwise. 1 Quote
Don Coatney Posted May 11, 2014 Report Posted May 11, 2014 Does anyone know where I can source 12 volt parts for this engine What 12 volt parts are you looking for? Quote
omiotek Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Posted May 12, 2014 No real reason..... Just thought it would be better. I might just keep it 6 1 Quote
omiotek Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Posted May 18, 2014 question... what kind of oil do you guys run in these cars? again might sound like a stupid question that im over thinking here but i want to put fresh oil into to rotate the motor by hand and i will drain it out after ive verified it doesnt lock up or anything of the sort and put in another batch of fresh oil before i fire the car next week. today i will be doing all of the maitenece check overs to start ordering enough parts to fire it up. Quote
Adam H P15 D30 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Posted May 18, 2014 Quote,,,,,, I recommend staying with 6 Volts as there are a lot of conversion issues otherwise. What conversion issues might those be? Besides not being able to use the old radio (probably dead anyway) the should be no other issues. It is nice to have a way to charge my phone and use a gps on a road trip. Other than a light bulb change and a coil, all the other factory stuff works fine on 12v. Quote
omiotek Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Posted May 18, 2014 i think it might be time to start a build thread. Quote
fstfish66 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 use a good oil with a good amount of ZDDP valveoline VR1 is a great oil for older cars with flat tappet cams,,brad penn is also a good oil,,, or run a name brand oil and use a ZDDP additive,, Quote
Don Coatney Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 If you have extra money and it makes you feel good by all means buy that ZDDP. It does as much good sitting on the shelf as it does in your Mopar flathead six cylinder engine. If you have a nine thousand RPM shiverlay V-8 it might do some good but in an engine that spins less than 4 grand it is not required. Quote
TodFitch Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 If you have extra money and it makes you feel good by all means buy that ZDDP. It does as much good sitting on the shelf as it does in your Mopar flathead six cylinder engine. If you have a nine thousand RPM shiverlay V-8 it might do some good but in an engine that spins less than 4 grand it is not required. Not to mention that the everyday off the shelf "normal" oil today has the same level of ZDDP in it as in the 1950s and early 60s. There is far more ZDDP in today's oil than was in the oil when your engine was designed. Quote
omiotek Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Posted May 22, 2014 Thanks for that info I was just going to run 10w30 or 40 conventional Quote
knuckleharley Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Thanks for that info I was just going to run 10w30 or 40 conventional Run 30 weight non-detergent. That's the oil your engine was designed for and if you use high-detergent and the engine has never been hottanked and rebuilt,all those decades of sludge are going to be flushed from where they are growing,and flowing in your oil. I've seen one oil filter completely filled up with sludge to the point the oil pressure dropped to lbs and the bypass valve was the only reason it didn't throw a rod. The filter was actually heavy when I pulled it off. Which went a long way towards explaining why the previous owner was so anxious to sell it. I ran though two oil filters and changes before I got it cleared up,but it then went from holding psi of oil pressure warmed up to holding psi of oil pressure warmed up at idle. And this was a very low stress and rpm tractor engine. Imagine that happening while you are cruising down the highway at mph,dozens of miles from home. Edited May 23, 2014 by knuckleharley Quote
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