Big block in '48 3 window. CAR WAS AN ABANDONED 64k MILE, WRECK SO REVIVING FOR GO FAST.

[Namikuz1]

  

 

I'm putting in a '64 413 bored to 426 with the standard go fast junk and an Iron case o/d A833, that I have built up to hold the power.

  I've seen 1 before with a 440 and auto. I couldn't get a look at the mounting as the owner was not around and I'm not going to open some ones hood or crawl under it ( I was on an out of state trip, so I can't readily contact them).

So...ANYONE seen who's done this?   Engine plates are not exactly street friendly, so not an option.

Other stuff/mods are 4 wheel disc, Ford 8.8 from an 2000 V8 Explorer and most likely will be converting to a power rack for steering.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2014 by Namikuz1

[Young Ed]

Was the car you saw a white plymouth 2dr sedan? We have a member named Ed that has one like that.

[Namikuz1]

  On 2/1/2014 at 5:41 PM, Young Ed said:

Was the car you saw a white plymouth 2dr sedan? We have a member named Ed that has one like that.

Nope... Was a primer black 5 window in Iowa. 

Your name is Ed.....?  You or another Ed?

[Don Coatney]

  On 2/1/2014 at 6:29 PM, Namikuz1 said:

Nope... Was a primer black 5 window in Iowa. 

Your name is Ed.....?  You or another Ed?

The other Ed is Ed Gross AKA downndirtyrodshop. He has the white two door sedan with a 440. He stopped by my house several years ago while driving his car from Wisconsin to Florida.

[Young Ed]

  On 2/1/2014 at 7:18 PM, Don Coatney said:

The other Ed is Ed Gross AKA downndirtyrodshop. He has the white two door sedan with a 440. He stopped by my house several years ago while driving his car from Wisconsin to Florida.

 

As hard as it is to believe theirs two of us Yes Ed Gross is his name. He's outta WI and his car has been parked in my driveway too.

[builtfercomfort]

On the HAMB, user 4woody put a 383 B motor in his. Stock suspension with a Cavalier rack & pinion for steering clearance. No way of keeping steering box and oil filter needed relocation.

At least one car on this board has a Dakota front stub and a big block of some sort. That seemed to be an easier fit.

[Frank Elder]

Tim has a 41 dodge with a 383.

[Namikuz1]

Thanks for the replies...... I'll look these Gents up!!   I'm going the "American Graffiti" route with an exposed engine and stand alone radiator. I'm making some fiberglass cowls to cover the opening from the flared door bulge, (from not having stock front sheet metal or fenders)  and "bicycle" fenders ,Zoomie type exhaust, sway bars, ~ 3" lowered  and  F.I. tunnel ram .  ... well that's what I'd like to do.... We'll see if Utah minds...........

Edited February 8, 2014 by Namikuz1

[Plymouthy Adams]

  On 2/4/2014 at 2:26 AM, builtfercomfort said:

builtfercomfort, on 03 Feb 2014 - 9:26 PM, said:builtfercomfort, on 03 Feb 2014 - 9:26 PM, said:

On the HAMB, user 4woody put a 383 B motor in his. Stock suspension with a Cavalier rack & pinion for steering clearance. No way of keeping steering box and oil filter needed relocation.

At least one car on this board has a Dakota front stub and a big block of some sort. That seemed to be an easier fit.

Oil filter is an issue but relocation is not the only answer ...a slight notch cut and inverted and welded in makes for the room you need with the big block in place...subject vehicle 1941 Dodge Bz Cp 383 engine

Edited February 8, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams

[falconvan]

Nice! Nothing more fun than a big block/ manual trans combo.

[alsancle]

Always wondered why everybody goes with an automatic when dropping in a big engine.  I assme it is just easier because of the pedals.  But I would think a hot rod really should have a 4 speed.

[casper50]

I would do the auto.  Hate shifting

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have done the 833 up against a 440 in a 41 Dodge truck...I further went the way of devising my own hydraulic clutch setup for simplicity of clutch release..it was fun and a holy terror on the street....but later changed to the 727 which was fun, holy terror and faster cleaner shifts....most of mine are automatics...just my personal preference..but I still like the floor shifter manual and am currently building one of these also..nothing wrong with either set up...

[Namikuz1]

A true hot rod, TO ME, should be manually shifted, as should a sports car. I thought about a TKO, but there is something about an old iron case 4 speed and a vintage hotrod just go together. I have about as much in the A833 set up, to cover a TKO.... Just couldn't do it. I WANT the V.gate, it looks "off the hook" and correct.

The shifter I have is .. well choice of... a Hurst  Ripper OR... a N.I.B.!!!!  Hurst V. Gate.....from the early 70's.  I'll start with the Ripper and then swap to the V.Gate after I get the "gate spring" softened up for street duty(done this before) and figure out the shift rod conversion for the O/D. I went with the A833 O/D because EVERY THING in Utah is so far apart.... a bit of mpg would be nice since I do not build trailer queens for myself..... drive it to the track, shows.........WORK.... So.... why not mid to high "teens" for mpg.

Well........... off to collect MORE parts for the job....

[alsancle]

Please keep us posted on your progress.

[HughForrest]

I'm 4woody over on the HAMB.

 

I wanted to drop the 383 as low in the frame as I could, so I cut & boxed my front crossmember to make room for the crank pulley & belt. This made the lower plumbing for the water pump & radiator a big PITA, and as said above I had to relocate the oil filter. In retrospect I'm not 100% sure it was worth it, but it did get the engine down low.

 

 

BTW I used Dodge truck engine mounts & insulators on the engine, and generic sbc mounts widened about 1/4" to fit between the ears of the truck mounts, on the frame; (the L bracket in the pic is just retaining some hoses- has nothing to do with the motor mount):

 

[Namikuz1]

Thanks for the info and pics....... I considered lowering the engine but I was going to remove the fire wall and set the engine back, fab a new fire wall.... not sure if it will be worth the effort with oil pan to road clearance issues as the roads and SEVERE speed bump and intersection dips in Utah.  I'll figure that out when I start mocking up and cobbling things together.  I haven't even tried to lower the engine into the frame yet, to see where things line up.... Just about done gathering the major components at this point....    MUCH more to come.

BTW, I joined the Hamb recently and I'll gleen what I can there too.

Thanks again!!!  

[Plymouthy Adams]

so not overlook the 57-59 Dodge V8 mounts for the big block...they very unique..you can see them in the picture I posted in post #9

[Namikuz1]

Well.......... Egg on my face...... Didn't even think to look at the mounts. I was focused on the oil filter configuration.........  How do they work under high loads?  I ask as my 426 made 439 hp/498tq with a small cam and single carb and it should turn over 500/500 with the cam and induction change to compliment the ported 906 big valve heads AND being backed up with a manual trans..... I figure I'll be a bit tough on mounts.  I built the engine to turn 6k-ish at the shift.   As in my signature.... I DO rev'em !!!!