Just bought a '47 D-24 Town Sedan

[steveplym]

I decided it was time to part with some of my GM vehicles and start looking for more '40's mopars.  I like the flathead and od in my old Plymouth, but looking for something that had been street rodded a bit to drive a little more.  Found that a friend had this town sedan road ready, but still needing a interior done.  It is V8 powered with an automatic, a/c, and cruise.  It sure is fun to drive.  Just brought it home this evening.  Will post more pics later on. 

 

[GlennCraven]

Fantastic car. Congrats! ... Can't wait to see more.

[Plymouthy Adams]

town sedan are very rare birds to find..it is a shame this one got cut but that is the way it goes at times...what color knobs and steering column...reason for asking

[greg g]

cool, enjoy.

[steveplym]

town sedan are very rare birds to find..it is a shame this one got cut but that is the way it goes at times...what color knobs and steering column...reason for asking

 

It doesn't have any of the original knobs left.  It's got a gm tilt column in it too.  Car was a basket case before, but with all the original trim and bumpers it still gives it a nice look.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I was looking to see if the knobs, steering wheel and the column were black, this would have indicated a Town Sedan Special...they were pretty well optioned vehicles from the factory.....am happy to see the vehicle survived...they are unique..

[steveplym]

Hey Tim, I did notice this car has a center arm rest in the back seat.  Not sure if that is original or not. The previous owner said that it was an original seat. 

[steveplym]

Gonna have to get some more pics of it this weekend.  I spent most of the afternoon and evening cleaning it up and detailing it.  Cleaned up the interior best I could and added some temporary carpet and floormats.  I think it is presentable enough to drive around now.  I got so busy it got dark before I thought about taking any pictures.

[Plymouthy Adams]

fold down arm rest if correct....when you get the pics of all the interior..will look and see what is or is not the same as my 47 Town Sedan...does the puppy have dual heaters?

[Don Coatney]

steveplym, May or may not be coming through StLouis, southern Illonois on our return trip. PM me your contact info.

[knuckleharley]

town sedan are very rare birds to find..

I didn't even know there was such a thing. I do like the way they look,though.

[knuckleharley]

It doesn't have any of the original knobs left.  It's got a gm tilt column in it too.  Car was a basket case before, but with all the original trim and bumpers it still gives it a nice look.

PLEASE tell me the car has more than 2 colors of wire running through it,isn't full of plastic smeared over rust and old paint and then painted over,the motor and transmission are actually bolted down,and the car is good enough as is to drive with no trouble for a year or more before needing anything,never mind a total ground-up rebuild.

 

I just want to hear such a thing is possible.

Edited September 27, 2013 by knuckleharley

[steveplym]

PLEASE tell me the car has more than 2 colors of wire running through it,isn't full of plastic smeared over rust and old paint and then painted over,the motor and transmission are actually bolted down,and the car is good enough as is to drive with no trouble for a year or more before needing anything,never mind a total ground-up rebuild.

 

I just want to hear such a thing is possible.

 

Yeah this car was built right.  I wouldn't be afraid to drive this car anywhere.  It is possible, you just have to find the right car.  Like you I was afraid of finding the same thing.

[De Soto Frank]

town sedan are very rare birds to find..it is a shame this one got cut but that is the way it goes at times...what color knobs and steering column...reason for asking

 

 

I was surprised to read this - I was under the impression that Dodge Division produced the largest numbers of Town Sedans between '41 & '48 ?

 

The body style was offered in Chrysler, De Soto and Dodge, '41-'42,  but i believe Dodge was the only one to continue it after the war,....

 

 

I would agree that they are rare as Chryslers and De Sotos,  but I thought Dodge version were relatively common ?

 

 

De Soto Frank

[Plymouthy Adams]

while they may have made more of the Dodge variety TS's during the time frame, there are not that many roaming the roads or gracing these pages compared to the regular D24's, that is all I am trying to say here..the few times Town Sedans come up on this forum there are always a number of folks that did not know of them at all.  And in one thread the majority of readers that did know of them admitted to having never seen one in real life..of course the term rare is often over used..take for instance Mustang people...they have a rare car..only 121,538  produced in a 1/2 year run...in this case, they still falling like leaves from the tree in autumn..so I will change my use of the word rare to....fewer and farther between in captivity..to that end I would still not use the term relatively common..more frequent than Chrysler and or Desoto but still no dedicated parade of cars...

Edited September 27, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams

[_shel_ny]

With only 27,800 produced it pushes toward the rare area.

 

  27,600 bizzy coupe

    9,500 convertible

    3,698 7p Sed

103,800 Club Coupe

  81,399 2-dr Sed

395,898 4-dr Sed closest in comparison body?  Suicide doors on the reg sedan as opposed to forward hinge rear doors on the Town Sed.

 

 

 

EDIT: ref: standard catalog of American cars

 

EDIT 2: there were also 2 limousines, and 302 chassis.  I have seen 1 town sedan. Somewhat in a state of disrepair, up close and personal at the junk yard.

Edited September 27, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48

[Young Ed]

while they may have made more of the Dodge variety TS's during the time frame, there are not that many roaming the roads or gracing these pages compared to the regular D24's, that is all I am trying to say here..the few times Town Sedans come up on this forum there are always a number of folks that did not know of them at all.  And in one thread the majority of readers that did know of them admitted to having never seen one in real life..of course the term rare is often over used..take for instance Mustang people...they have a rare car..only 121,538  produced in a 1/2 year run...in this case, they still falling like leaves from the tree in autumn..so I will change my use of the word rare to....fewer and farther between in captivity..to that end I would still not use the term relatively common..more frequent than Chrysler and or Desoto but still no dedicated parade of cars...

 

Tim Tim you talking 64 1/2 mustangs? Which of course there is no such thing. They are just the early models.

[Plymouthy Adams]

NO Ed...I am only referring to the 64 1/2..call them pre-65's if you wish but the bean counters enumerated them distinct from 65 production figures..65 units are even more plentiful...

 

1964 1/2 Mustang Production Statistics

 

2 Door Hartdop Coupe

97,705

2 Door Convertible

28,833

 

1965 Mustang Production Statistics

 

2 Door Hartdop Coupe

409,260

2 Door Convertible

73,112

2 Door Fastback Coupe                                                                                                                                                            77,079

 

you want to start a fight..find a 64 1/2 owner and tell him they did not exist....lol  I'll sit back and laugh as the scene unfolds as they quickly come unwound....

 

I am on your side Ed..but the cards are stacked against us both...6450 Tigers were made in 64-67 known as the Series I but that is actually affectionately broken into the Mk I and Mk !A's   of these series I's  I have two of these cars...are they rare...not by the words of Mustang owners...lol  And they are subgrougped, one is a Mk I and the other a Mk IA there are subtle difference thus the A distinction.. you also have the 65 and the other a 66

Edited September 27, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams

[Plymouthy Adams]

quote in part..,.

 

EDIT 2: there were also 2 limousines, and 302 chassis.  I have seen 1 town sedan. Somewhat in a state of disrepair, up close and personal at the junk yard.

 

 

 Shel, thanks for posting the stats.....I have a 41 TS and a 47 TS Special....again, I must say I have only seen one other in person at an event in my association with the old cars and events I have attended..granted I am not as well traveled as some in the show circuit..but if very common you would expect to see more than one over a long period of time and events I would think...

[_shel_ny]

I can see the TV commercial now with Santa fainting, along with the 64 1/2 Mustang owner

 

 

 

 

ref: standard catalog of American cars

 

 

EDIT: add 004.jpg

Edited September 27, 2013 by shel_bizzy_48

[_shel_ny]

 Shel, thanks for posting the stats.....I have a 41 TS and a 47 TS Special....again, I must say I have only seen one other in person at an event in my association with the old cars and events I have attended..granted I am not as well traveled as some in the show circuit..but if very common you would expect to see more than one over a long period of time and events I would think...

 

41 or 42  Luxury Liner at the yard as well, but what little memory I have left make me believe it was just a 4-dr sd.

[Young Ed]

Here's my proof. Mustang serial #1 in the henry ford museum. Clearly stated as a 1965 model.

 

 

 

[_shel_ny]

.....and Ed would be correct.

 

 

ref: standard catalog of American cars

[Plymouthy Adams]

Not going to dispute that Ed..but take that evidence to a bonified owner of a early 65 and try to tell him he does not have a 1/2 year model....that the fur I wan to see get kicked around....lol  

 

Even the Barracuda first run is considered by the owners as 1/2 year productions and even beats the Mustang to the show room by two weeks...

 

The very fact I used these as a comparison is the great number produced and the follow ship claiming rarity verse other lower production vehicles with less than average survivorship..

 

So my Jensen is 1 of 37 only by color have no clue of the other options..out of 1088 for that year of which only 562 came to America out of a total 10 year production of 6408 units..yes I do call this one rare...and in the last 20 years I have seen zero on these street or at any show even British shows just outside Atlanta...I do recall these at the end of my high school days and pre military moving about the military town I lived...they were notorious for being owned by young single aspiring military officers...only two insurance companies I was told would underwrite them...flash forward 18 years..I got to drive one of these beasts...flash forward another 25 years beyond the drive..I now own one...these cars may not sit well with most of the forum membership but they are an investment...and at least Mopar powered from the factory....

 

 

Most cars considered rare will have a registry of some sort to track the survivors and document the cars...The Tiger and the Jensen have such following..cannot find one for the Town Sedans...it is sad as they just by age and attrition will almost assuredly be few in number..

Edited September 27, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams

[Young Ed]

Tim I'd just ask him to show me his title. Unless its been messed with over the years I bet it says 1965. Getting back to town sedans I believe the only one I've seen in the flesh was the junkyard model I removed your knobs from and my dual heater piping. Everytime I work under the hood I'm greatful for finding that and getting it installed. Not having 50ft of heater hose flying around under the hood saves a lot of agravation.