52diesel Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 A buddy of mine is looking at his first pilot house this weekend. The seller reports it as a 2.5 ton, but I haven't seen one of these before. It has a longer hood than my 1.5 ton and it's running a 10 lug front axle. I have never seen one with the longer hood area. I wanted to pick the experts about this truck, is it really just a 2.5 ton? Is the front end really longer, or are the fender flares just shorter? Any ideas on the 10 lug Budd wheels, maybe a newer axle swap? Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Its possible thats a 2.5 ton with the moly block 6 with dual carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) if the data tag is on the door jamb you can tell right there what size it is by the letter designation. Edited February 22, 2013 by ggdad1951 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallytoo Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) bob (dodgeb4ya) is going to know the answer. i'd say the front axle is original equipment. the big trucks do indeed have a longer hood/front end and larger fender flares than the 1.5-tons. wally Edited February 22, 2013 by wallytoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd B Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 If I paid attention in class when dodgeb4y was giving lessons awhile back. The 3 ton and bigger are the long noses and bigger axles. My 2.5 ton semi and the flat bed both have the same fenders as my 1.5's. We will have to wait and see me grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Well boys.... All 1948-53 2-1/2 tonners have the shorter nose same as used on the 1-1/2 to 2 ton trucks and all use the 25" engine. The bigger heavy series Dodge trucks all have the 6-8" longer nose and really wide (10") front fender extentsions for the bigger cast spoke or 10 bolt budd wheels. That 1948-50 truck most likely is a 2-3/4 to 3 tonner. It's got the 30" Moly 7 main bearing block engine in it too. Starting in late 1950 Dodge came out with a 4 ton model called the Y series. It had a displacement of 377ci. The late intro 1950 Model "Y" t is the only model that could have the factory installed twin carbs of any 1948-50 heavy duty series Dodge trucks. You need to open the drivers door and look for the Data tag as already mentioned on the hinge piller and see what it says. Shown is a 1948-50 tag and the later 1951-53 Data tag. B1R (2-3/4 ton) will have a 281ci. B2R will be a 306ci. B1T and B2T (3 ton) will have the 331ci. B1V and B2V series (heavy 3 and 3-1/2 ton) will also have the 331ci engine. If it is a B2Y or B2YA (4 ton) it should have a 377ci twin carb and exhaust engine most likely with air brakes. Stamped Engine ID number is on the front of the engine,drivers side, behind the oil fill pipe and below the head a couple inches. With air brakes you cannot see it. Hope you can suck all this tech info in! Bob Edited February 25, 2013 by Dodgeb4ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBF Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Yea, that's definitely bigger than my 2.5 tonner (longer hood, larger wheel flares, 10 lug Budds), but boy it sure looks like a great starting place. Good luck. Edited February 22, 2013 by MBFowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
52diesel Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Great information! I was hoping it had a larger engine bay than what my 1.5 ton is. The plan for the truck is a cummins 6bt swap, should fit right in there without the firewall modifications that my 52 had to endure. You think there would be any interest in that big six out of the truck? I would hate to see it go to the junker, but at least it wouldn't be the whole truck. What I noticed most weird about it, is it has a hood ornament and a radio antenna, this is the first heavy truck I have seen with both of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Great information! I was hoping it had a larger engine bay than what my 1.5 ton is. The plan for the truck is a cummins 6bt swap, should fit right in there without the firewall modifications that my 52 had to endure. You think there would be any interest in that big six out of the truck? I would hate to see it go to the junker, but at least it wouldn't be the whole truck. What I noticed most weird about it, is it has a hood ornament and a radio antenna, this is the first heavy truck I have seen with both of those. It does have a longer engine bay-the engine is a 30" but actually the engine is about 8" longer than a 250 or 265 2 to 2-1/2 ton engine. Austinsailer I bet would love that engine and trans! The radio antenna and hood ornament are nice extra's for sure! It should have had a hood ornament. All the heavy trucks had Timken axles front and rear with either cast spoke or 10 bolt Budd wheels. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Bob, I thought my 51 B3VX was a 3.5 ton? You have the only 4 ton I know of. George What am I thinking you said Y not V, I need to pay more attention! G Edited February 23, 2013 by george c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hey Brad that big beast is over near Lampasas, I would be making an offer on it to put it to work hauling water since he was only wanting scrap value for it but I have no way to get it home...hope y'all can make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Bob, I thought my 51 B3VX was a 3.5 ton? You have the only 4 ton I know of. George What am I thinking you said Y not V, I need to pay more attention! G George I was stating just the 1948-50 big truck specs. In 1951 the tonnage ratings and engine specs changed. Your 1951 B3VX twin screw is rated as a 3-1/2 tonner. Kinda odd as the tandem axle is rated the same as the regular B3V which is also also rated at 3-1/2 tons! All the "V" series trucks in 1951 and up were now rated at 3-1/2 tons. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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