Andydodge Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 Does anyone know for certain that the Cowl Vent Rubber Seal attaches to the body......not the actaul vent itself............thanks, andyd Quote
Desotodav Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 The cowl vent seal rubber attaches to the body in the channel for the trucks AndyD. I would imagine that it is the same for the cars. Desotodav Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 body on the cars also is my experience.. Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 The seal goes in the channel around the vent opening andy, you should see a channel for it with the drain area surrounding it. I got mine thru steel rubber products but there's other places too. Quote
Andydodge Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Posted September 23, 2012 Thanks for the replies, thats what I thought also, but the seal I have seems to be about 1" too short.....how good a fit was that one from Steel Rubber?..........andyd Quote
Mark D Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 Agreed the rubber seal sets in a groove under the lid. The seal is cemented in place. Got mine from Roberts, fit perfectly and haven't had a leak since I replaced it last spring. Quote
Desotodav Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 I got mine from Bernbaum's and had that problem with mine too Andy. It appears that VPW are one of the only suppliers to have that rubber seal in the correct length. I was fortunate to have bought 2 of them at the time, so with the slice of a sharp blade and the assistance of some super glue I was able to make 1 seal out of 2. I'll send the remainder of it down to you in the mail if your car one is the same (or similar) rubber profile as the truck one. Drop me an email with a photo of the vent rubber (and a ruler in the background). Photo attached shows difference in lengths (top rubber seal is the one that I used). A mate of mine tried to stretch the bottom rubber without success. Desotodav Quote
austinsailor Posted September 23, 2012 Report Posted September 23, 2012 and I can't recall what the different ones fit. You just have the wrong seal. I went through that as well. They either fit perfectly or not even close. Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted September 24, 2012 Report Posted September 24, 2012 My steel rubber seal fits fine...maybe you got the wrong one. Quote
Chester Brzostowski Posted September 25, 2012 Report Posted September 25, 2012 My steel rubber seal fits fine...maybe you got the wrong one. Ditto, My Steel rubber seal fit like a glove. Yes pasted to the body. Chet… Quote
steveplym Posted September 26, 2012 Report Posted September 26, 2012 Ditto, My Steel rubber seal fit like a glove. Yes pasted to the body.Chet… I bought my first one from Roberts and it was about an inch too short as well. They I bought one from Steele rubber and it fit perfect. Just used 3m weatherstrip adhesive and it seals fine. Quote
Andydodge Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks guys, sounds like Roberts & AB got the short versions.........lol......andyd Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted September 26, 2012 Report Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks guys, sounds like Roberts & AB got the short versions.........lol......andyd Well, you could try and wash the car in some really hot water and make it shrink some... Quote
46busboys Posted September 26, 2012 Report Posted September 26, 2012 I used the cut to fit from Bernbaums, no issues...used weatherstrip cement to glue the joint. I would buy it again Quote
Desotodav Posted September 27, 2012 Report Posted September 27, 2012 Check your packaging AndyD - I reckon you will find it has a label like this attached... Desotodav Quote
Andydodge Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Posted September 27, 2012 Dav...........rah rah .......you leally funny guy.......andyd Quote
mrwrstory Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I see that Steele Rubber as a recommeded, or preferred, source for this part. However, there is a gentlemen in So. Calif. who makes a number of rubber parts for the P-15. He is one of us. Just happens that his day job is molding elastomer parts for industry. I bought some firewall grommets from him but have since lost his name or that of his company. I got to him via a gentleman, from Calif. I believe, who posted a series of very professional videos of his concours restoration of his P-15. The series ran for many months. I'm even picturing his car to be a deep burgundy color, a four door I think. The video series concluded with him scoring a 1st in a National POC event. I've forgotten his name too Can anyone recall the restoration project or that gentleman who shared his extensive video recording, or the Calif. molding source? I'd like to check w/him re the cowl vent seal. Thanks in advance! Quote
Young Ed Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) The car you describe sounds like David Maxwells. However I believe he was/is a teacher. Oh could the car have been a 41? There was a guy who did a series of videos on the resto of his 41 plymouth. Edit: is this it http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=26249&highlight=video+series Edited January 10, 2013 by Young Ed added link Quote
mrwrstory Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 David Maxwell is it. Thanks!!!! I just checked the thread you linked and there was a comment by me about 18 months ago. Dimentia sucks! Quote
deathbound Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I ordered 1 from Steele that they had listed for a 1938 Plymouth P6 Coupe. The 1st pic shows what I have & what they sent. Not even close. Had to return it & they said they would talk to their tech(?)dept. The 2nd pic shows the channel the seal sets in. Anybody have any luck with 1 for a '38? Quote
mrwrstory Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 David Maxwell is it. Thanks!!!! I just checked the thread you linked and there was a comment by me about 18 months ago. Dimentia sucks! Upon further observation, I managed to merge the two parties, Mark and David, and their cars into some kinda singular experience recollection. Maybe that's selective,... or is it creative dimentia At any rate I got to the right guy inspite of my mental acquity Thanks again! Quote
Andydodge Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Posted January 10, 2013 Well...........Deathbound, shows the actual channel in the cowl and that is what I also have in BOTH my 1940 Oz Dodge and 1941 Sth African(USA sourced) Plymouth Coupe.......the BOTTOM of the outer channel, where the rubber seal fits is curved in side profile , yet the seal from Steele rubber is FLAT, the right length(finally) BUT completely incorrect in side profile and would NOT fit...........on the other hand the ones from BOTH Bernbaums and Roberts were both the correct profile, ie CURVED, but about 1-2" short........so I did a cut & shut........and I have a sealed cowl vent ......BUT I now have an uncut, non fitting Steele Rubber seal that supposedly fits both my cars but is just crap............nice crap, well made crap BUT crap nonetheless, their catalog shows this part as the right one, but sorry, WRONG!!!!!........cost me $41.50 plus $20.00 shipping ........was not happy, especially as Steele Rubbers guy when I ordred it over the phone went to great pains to assure me that it was correct..........live is hard enough as it is........lol.......reagrds, andyd Quote
Robert Horne Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I ordered 1 from Steele that they had listed for a 1938 Plymouth P6 Coupe. The 1st pic shows what I have & what they sent. Not even close. Had to return it & they said they would talk to their tech(?)dept. The 2nd pic shows the channel the seal sets in. Anybody have any luck with 1 for a '38? On my 38, I used a tube of silicon, made a bead, let sit for a few minutes, put on a layer of wax paper, closed vent, added some weight. It has never leaked... Quote
Labrauer Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Andy I am not for sure but I know on both my 48 Plymouth coupe and the 48 Plymouth sedan the rubber is attached to the body of the car. At least the ones that I replaced from being cracked and old did so that is what I did also. It looks like it would fit the channel under the lid but with a little rubber glue it worked out well putting it on the car body. I also used wax paper and closed the vent with a little weight on the vent for a couple of days. If I remember right all the old cars that I have seen in the car shows it is alway attached to the car. I also got mine from Steele rubber and they fit well. Quote
Andydodge Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Posted January 14, 2013 Well all I know is that the one I got from Steele was in a bag that had the part number that says its for the 1940-48 Mopars but it definately is not the right profile, right overall shape but wrong profile.........and I know it is supposed to fit in the body channel which has curved bottom but the Steele one is flat.......... this Steele rubber one is nowhere near the correct profile............anyway I have the other correct profiled wrong length one in so its done.......lol......andyd Quote
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