maineSSS Posted August 18, 2012 Report Posted August 18, 2012 Looking for a 2-barrel (single carb) 230 intake- don't see any on Ebay. Anybody know where I can find one? Quote
Robert Horne Posted August 19, 2012 Report Posted August 19, 2012 The two barrel intake I have, is on a 1956 engine. They are very rare for sure.. Quote
claybill Posted August 19, 2012 Report Posted August 19, 2012 you gotta find a 56-7-8-9 flat 6cyl at a salvage yard.. Quote
maineSSS Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Posted August 20, 2012 The Vintage yard I go to doesn't have any, so I'm looking for individuals or businesses that might have one to sell. Haven't seen anything on Ebay, are there other sites dealing in Dodge parts that might have one? Nothing presently in the "parts for sale" here, unfortunately. Quote
Reg Evans Posted August 20, 2012 Report Posted August 20, 2012 I have this one but I'm not real keen on the idea of selling it. What's your offer? Quote
Scruffy49 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Posted August 21, 2012 Show off... my 57 230 has a 1 bbl...at least it has a hot air choke... Quote
Local2ED Posted August 21, 2012 Report Posted August 21, 2012 My '58 Dodge Coronet has a two barrel intake with a Stromberg carburetor. It also has the tube for the choke connection. Is this a rare set-up according to this thread? My appoligies for the hijack. Thank you, Ed. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 21, 2012 Report Posted August 21, 2012 only if it was not on your car.. Quote
Young Ed Posted August 21, 2012 Report Posted August 21, 2012 My '58 Dodge Coronet has a two barrel intake with a Stromberg carburetor. It also has the tube for the choke connection.Is this a rare set-up according to this thread? My appoligies for the hijack. Thank you, Ed. Somewhat rare yes. Will you post a photo of the throttle linkage you have and your air cleaner? I have a 2bbl setup I plan to use on my 40 plymouth pickup motor but all I have is the intake and stromberg. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted August 21, 2012 Report Posted August 21, 2012 my source says the WW series 2 bbl was sotck in '58 on Coronet with either automatic or manual carb..230-L6..so I would not consider it rare on a LD1 Quote
maineSSS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Reg- I don't have any idea what a fair value is, having never looked for one before. If you're not keen on parting with it, better hold on to it, my experience is that two days after you lose/sell/throw out something, you suddenly need it badly. My plan is to see how a more modern 2 bbl works on my '49 PW truck. Edited August 21, 2012 by maineSSS Quote
rocknroad Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 I just put a 2100 autolite/ford carb on mine using this: http://www.carburetion.com/products/productdetails.aspx?part=TD2041 and a 1/2" 2bbl holly spacer. You may have to fill two holes like I did but it gives you the option of mounting the carb 90 degrees in a different direction. The 2100 doesn't care which direction its mounted. Jeep guys use it for 4x4 because the can go very vertical without stall. I had help from: http://www.carbsonly.com/ To get a carb the right size since the 2100 can be 120 cfm to 424 cfm. Bought the 2100 rebuilt from them. I think it was a 1.08 v 2100 which should be about the same CFM as 2x 1bbl carters(maybe a little more). It runs smooth and easy to tune. I had a big 2100 on my 74 ranchero and put 60,000 miles on the rebuild. Tuned it once after the rebuild and it started in 100 degree to-30 weather in minnesota for years. I'm thinking about having a machine shop make an adapter/spacer for 230 flatheads. it worked so well..anyone interested? If I had to guess $100 ea. The adapter, spacer and the gaskets....to many parts and cost about the same. Im looking for reliability...less parts is better in my book. I'm in Los Angeles and it is Hottttt!!! Don't need the fuel boiling away! Quote
maineSSS Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Posted August 23, 2012 I'm not a big fan of adapters, they tend to mess up the air fuel distribution when both barrels are in use, and often when one barrel is being used. The fuel-air stream hits a floor, separating out the fuel, which has to flow the edge of the 1 barrel opening and re-atomize, which often doesn't happen well. The OEM's, who are notoriously cheap, would have done this in preference to tooling up for a new casting (expensive) if it worked well. The 2100 carb sounds interesting, I'll have a look at it. Off-angle operation is definitely a plus in my application. Surprisingly enough, the Quadrajet works well offroad, due to small floats and their placement. The 36/32 Weber also seems popular, and the Harley-Davidson CVK 40 Kehein has run on an upside-down Samurai! Quote
rocknroad Posted August 24, 2012 Report Posted August 24, 2012 I'd like to get rid of the adapter but not having good luck finding the 2bbl intake. The adapter was the cheapest fastest way to see how the 2100 would work. The flatheads don't flow all that well anyway so I figured if there was an improvement I'd know right away. Strapped it on and tuned the idle and mixture by "ear" and I lit up the tires trying to straighten out the bumper with a tow strap!!! Quote
maineSSS Posted August 24, 2012 Author Report Posted August 24, 2012 The upper end of the RPM range (Hp) is where you'll see flow improvement gains, flatheads usually have good torque. I want to improve flow around 2000 rpm for better road speed and hill climbing, double-clutch downshifting is kinda difficult. I think there are gains to be made in valve/seat angles and port shaping in the 230, not much actual engine development with today's tools seems to have been done on the Dodge. Quote
DJ194950 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Posted August 24, 2012 Thanks for the post! The carbs site shows an newer style electric choke conversion for flat 6's it appears? Says mopar 6 1 bbl. part # 1231 or 1232. Possibly for the newer flat 6"s?? Interesting! The old solenoid lift type are getting harder to find and pricey. I do have one now that works fine, but put this on fav's for future use?? The carb adaptor looks good for the small turbo'ed Flat six with several cfm. carbs avail. to fit. Ya, still dreaming! Thanks, Doug Quote
YukonJack Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 Thanks for the post!The carbs site shows an newer style electric choke conversion for flat 6's it appears? Says mopar 6 1 bbl. part # 1231 or 1232. Possibly for the newer flat 6"s?? Interesting! The old solenoid lift type are getting harder to find and pricey. I do have one now that works fine, but put this on fav's for future use?? The carb adaptor looks good for the small turbo'ed Flat six with several cfm. carbs avail. to fit. Ya, still dreaming! Thanks, Doug I didn't see that choke conversion Quote
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