very cool 1948 srt8~ wow im impressed!

[michael.warshaw]

a friend of mine bought a 48 p15 club coupe around spring time last year and got it running and drove it for the summer with the stock 217.8 flathead 6.

As a race junkie and need for speed he decided to rip it all apart and put a new 6.1 hemi and make it a great cruiser.

car mods are new fatman clip

new hemi motor and rear end and some slight visual mods also.

attched are pics.

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[thrashingcows]

Wow...Very nice!!

[Don Coatney]

Historical plates? How many years of history is he covering? Is that legal in NY?

[aero3113]

Very NICE

Don, yes it is legal in NY. With historical plates you can only drive a certain amount of miles a year and are limited to driving to car shows and weekend driving. But you do get the benefit of VERY low insurance. I think they consider historical anything older than 20 years.

[Don Coatney]

Very NICE

Don, yes it is legal in NY. With historical plates you can only drive a certain amount of miles a year and are limited to driving to car shows and weekend driving. But you do get the benefit of VERY low insurance. I think they consider historical anything older than 20 years.

Guess that makes it legal to hang fuzzy dice in a 1991 car:rolleyes:

Sorry but my thinking is a bit warped:eek:

[JerseyHarold]

I knew someone who lived in NYC and kept 3-4 old beaters with historical registrations. He used them as everyday cars on a rotating basis to keep mileages low. In the long run, it was less expensive doing that than registering and insuring one modern car.

[Joe Flanagan]

Do the authorities actually keep track of that sort of thing? Virginia law states that you can't drive a car with antique plates any further than 200 miles from your home. When I get the Plymouth highway ready, I want to drive it up to Massachusetts to see my family. That's a 500 mile trip one-way. I've always wondered whether I'd get pulled over for being too far away from home in an antique car. I know the alternative is to get regular plates but at the moment that is not my plan.

[JerseyHarold]

Do the authorities actually keep track of that sort of thing? Virginia law states that you can't drive a car with antique plates any further than 200 miles from your home.

I don't think there is any official mileage tracking, but, like many other laws, it's on the books 'just in case' the authorities decide to use it against you.

I would talk to my insurance company before taking a long trip to get their position on coverage.

[greg g]

NY historical vehicle regulations apply to motor viecles 25 years old and older. I believe ther total mileage is 2500 per year, but it is largely ignored. Some vintage insurers also have a similar restriction. The renewal paper work asks for mileage since last registration, and the milege is supposed to be written on the inspection sticker (many people have their registration period coincide with their inspection period, so it represents the years milage. However if you renew your registration on line, there is no place to record the mileage.

The reg say that the car can be used for pleasure, traveling to exhibitions, and shows and other Club events, and occasional usage. What defines occasional, 12 summer weekends, less than half the year??? I drove to work then went from work to a Cruise In, where I talked to peple about joining the club...

I have YOM plate registration which is a sub section of the historical registration, but I have driven to Michigan, VT, Va, Ma, CT, Pa, NC, Michigan, and Canada without any problem.

And Joe your Va restriction ends at the border as PA, NJ, etc can not enforce Va vehicle and traffic laws. So if yer <than 200 miles to the Va border your golden.....

[steveplym]

In Illinois the antique vehicle plates are for vehicles 25 years or older. It states you are to limit the use to club functions, parades, shows, and test drives for maintenance or taking to the the shop. I personally have driven mine quite a bit and haven't been pulled over yet.

That may change though as they have passed legislation to offer a higher price AV plate that will allow you to drive your car from April-October pretty much anytime, like a standard plate, but the price is a bit higher. They may start to try to get everyone who doesn't limit their driving to shows, etc. to get the higher priced plate.

[John Reddie]

I will never understand why there are restrictions for the older cars. People who drive their antique classics are careful and drive sensibly yet up here in MA, cars on the major highways drive at ultra high speeds, some at 90 mph. I have been going 60 in my Fury out there and cars pass me like I am up on blocks. The speed limit is a joke. I say let the antique folks alone and focus more on the life threatening everyday speeders. Gasoline could go up to $10.00 a gallon:eek: and these people would still be driving like this.

John R

[Don Coatney]

I will never understand why there are restrictions for the older cars. People who drive their antique classics are careful and drive sensibly yet up here in MA, cars on the major highways drive at ultra high speeds, some at 90 mph. I have been going 60 in my Fury out there and cars pass me like I am up on blocks. The speed limit is a joke. I say let the antique folks alone and focus more on the life threatening everyday speeders. Gasoline could go up to $10.00 a gallon:eek: and these people would still be driving like this.

John R

Statistically 25% of all vehicle accidents are caused by drunk drivers. That tells me that 75% of all accidents are caused by the milk, soda pop, bottled water, coffee, and tea drinkers.

[Captain Neon]

I've never lived in a state that required some one to have collector car insurance to get collector car plates, and I've never met a collector car insurance company that requires you to have collector car plates. My collector cars have collector car insurance and regular plates.

I used to live in Hillbilly Hell MO, and I can almost guarantee you that if I had my P15 out any day but Saturday and Sunday, or out at dusk or dawn local law enforcement would be pullin' me over for violating the collector car plate restrictions. Missouri required a log, and I can also guarantee you that local law enforcement would have done routine traffic stops to verify that I hadn't a) exceeded the maximum annual mileage limit, exceeded the trip mileage limit, and c) that I had recognised club, parade, or show activity recorded. Only when I am not allowed to get regular plates for my collector cars will I ever get collector plates on my cars.

[Joe Flanagan]

That sounds pretty severe. I don't believe they do that here.

[Mark D]

Just reregistered my p15 with a YOM plate last week, but have the same Grundy insurance I had before I got the new plate. Grundy restricts travel for antinque autos to travel for exhibition or educational purposes. Cost for agreed value insurance was real real real reasonable comparded to my other daily vehicles. I shopped all the big insurance houses and they where all comparable. There is no restriction in Mass for # of miles traveled in a year.

[Captain Neon]

That sounds pretty severe. I don't believe they do that here.

Xenophobic rural backwoods of Missouri. If one didn't attend the local high school and one's family wasn't there to gleefully welcome the 1st Iowa Cavalry when they invaded, they will do what they can to make one leave. The only time strangers are welcome is during deer hunting season and Missouri Days.

I lived there for two years and I never felt welcome. The only time the neighbours offered any help was after the FOR SALE sign went up in the yard. They offered to help me move. Most people coming in to my situation didn't stick around for 4 months.

[plyroadking]

IA is really unusual about yom plates, when I first moved here I had a set of '40 CA plates on the car that lasted 3 days before I was pulled over and asked if I had made them. Several phone calls and an hr later I was free to go. I recently tried to register the car with '40 IA plates. Turns out that if your car is over 25 yrs old you can run it with any plate you want, as long as you keep the state issued ones in the car. I asked the nice lady at DOT what would happen if I was at fault in an accident and took off, as there would be no way to track me down, her reply, "oh you wouldn't do that!" Had them on the car a year now and have never been pulled over, I do enjoy the free parking!

[TodFitch]

Historical plates? How many years of history is he covering? Is that legal in NY?

That was my first impression too. The drive train of that car, which is what really makes it a car is no where near 25 years old.

I will never understand why there are restrictions for the older cars. ...R

Because you are getting a discount on the registration. If there were no limit then everyone who possibly could would get historical plates and the state would lose a lot of money.

To other comments about enforcement, especially when driving to other states: The laws vary so much state to state that your out of state law enforcement will probably just not bother to figure out if you are legal or not.

For example, there are no driving restrictions on YOM plates in California. If you have a daily driver that is old enough to qualify for YOM plates, feel free to get them. Why is this possible? Because in California there is no discount for YOM plates. In fact there is an extra fee on top of the regular plate fee: The are basically just vanity plates. Drive them all you want as far as the state is concerned.

California does have a series of historical plates at a discounted rate. And because there is a discount on registration there are driving restrictions. Basically to have unlimited driving you need to pay full registration. Makes perfect sense. Now maybe you think the costs for registration of a car in your state is too high, but that is a different issue altogether.

[Don Coatney]

Here is how it is done in Tennessee. I must re-new my regular tags annually but this letter does not have to be re-newed. Also I get unrestricted driving with these YOM tags. Tennessee offers antique tags at a onetime discounted price with no annual fee, but the driving is restricted to shows, club meets, and such. I have seen a lot of folks here in Tennessee running the antique tags on there daily drivers.

[greg g]

NY says that a re built or modified car can be registered based on the manufacturing year of the major component of the car. In this case the body and chassis comprise more of the vehicle than the engine/transmission. Or you may also manufacture it based on the year it ws built if made out of numerous minor components, but you need to then meet the safety and emmission standards for the declared year of manufacture.

So most are registered based on body year.

[austinsailor]

In Missouri it's registered as the year it most resembles, and the safety items are what would have applied then. Like seat belts, blinkers, etc. A 32 ford kit car would register as a 32 ford.

I have a 66 white extended cab road tractor and when I put that sheet metal on my 99 Dodge diesel pickup chassis, it'll be a 66 White. Not so in all states, as I know in Texas it goes by drive train.

And, Capt Neon, what hillbilly MO. town did you live in?

[Captain Neon]

In Missouri it's registered as the year it most resembles, and the safety items are what would have applied then. Like seat belts, blinkers, etc. A 32 ford kit car would register as a 32 ford.

I have a 66 white extended cab road tractor and when I put that sheet metal on my 99 Dodge diesel pickup chassis, it'll be a 66 White. Not so in all states, as I know in Texas it goes by drive train.

And, Capt Neon, what hillbilly MO. town did you live in?

Trenton, pop. 5K, Grundy county seat, about 1/2 hour south of IA border, 90 minutes to Des Moines, St. Joe, Liberty, and Kirksville.

[48P15Annie]

That is too for words!!!