michael.warshaw Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 drove the car at eh resto shop today for the first time in 2 years, looks great but when i pushed the clutch the issue was a loud banging noise kind of like i was into gear all the way, had to take it back to the shop in 3rd gear, sounds like the od tranny or clutch wasnt setup right any ideas? Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Didn't you ask the guys at the shop? The rod that controls the clutch fork might need adjustment. Did it happen only when you depressed the clutch? Did you have any problems shifting from gear to gear? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Joe..I read it as he brought it back in third gear..this indicated to em there was shift concerns after the pop bang boom Quote
1947PLEVY Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Didn't the "Shop" test drive it before releasing the car to you? That way they could have found the problem and fixed before letting it go. Quote
michael.warshaw Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Posted June 19, 2011 i wasnt there to pick it up just wanted to drive it. i went with the shop owner. you would think they hwould have got the bugs out. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 So what does the shop owner say? There are some fussy adjustments at both the clutch fork and the gear shift linkage. Quote
oldmopar Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 I do not know your restoration story but 2 years at a shop and not running right. It sounds like you are going down the road of Howard Tarnoff and others just a caution to be aware of these restoration shops. See link to post below http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=27814 Quote
michael.warshaw Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Posted June 19, 2011 So what does the shop owner say? There are some fussy adjustments at both the clutch fork and the gear shift linkage. he say he ll take care of it it just made a terrible sound, it sounds like something exploding, i was scared, iitll be fine after the adjust it wanted to kno if anyone knew what it might be? Quote
Alshere59 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) I tend to have the same reservations as Oldmopar. Hearing this and looking for a replacement pitman arm at their request would make me nervous. Large bangs are not normally related to adjustments in the linkage. Adjustments only keep it from going into a gear as a rule. Steering arms are pretty stout how do they bend? I would have them get the tranny going first, before they work on anything else. Checking for metal shavings before it runs again would be my first step. Someone with better tranny experience may have better suggestion's but it doesn't sound like a adjustment problem IMHO. Also don't they check to make sure everything works or at least won't damage anything or run the risk of an accident before the customer takes it out. Edited June 19, 2011 by Alshere59 Quote
PatS.... Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Sounds to me like the clutch return spring broke or came off. That would make a big bang...maybe someone didn't tighten it up?? Quote
garbagestate 44 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Back in the 80's I had a guy do an engine swap on a 78 El Camino. I would have done it myself but I was living in an apartment with nothing but a municipal lot for parking. When I got it back it knocked like hell. It turns out that he broke the flywheel and the noise was the broken piece of the wheel hitting part of the casting on the block. Between that and a bunch of other stuff the guy screwed up, I think if I had it to do over again I'd have done it myself even if it was a hassle. Quote
Tom Skinner Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Mike, Please do not misunderstand this message it is not meant to anger or judge you or anyone. It is only "in my humble opinion" as lived through 37 years of experience with working on old cars. However, the guys that grab a wrench and a Service Manual seem to always come out way ahead of the guys that grab a wallet to restore their cars. Michael I really do hope you work out the bugs in your project with a minimum of money hassles. As I get older, I can see a day where I might have to rely upon someone else doing the work on my car as well, so Father Time will have its way with us all. I would still opt to pay a young person in my neighborhood to do as I instructed him/her to (while supervised) even if he/she had no experience whatsoever than to trust some of these so-called resto shops. They seem to thrive on what they think are "the well to do". What I'm trying to say is these shops think your loaded because you have an old car and have brought your old car to them. Case in point, my current 1948 Chrysler needed a clutch job in 2008, I bought it to a Transmission/Clutch Shop in Mooresville, NC (No Name listed on purpose), the owner wanted to do it time and material with no maximum price. When I pressed him for a price he finally said 3-4 K. I went home and did it myself for around $400. There doesn't seem to be a limit to some people's "Audacity". I hope your shop doesn't try to set you up as a mark on this one. Hell, I'd rather try a repair myself than be bamboozled like that. On a side note I recently drove by his shop, and I guess because of the economy - it is now shuttered down. I not happy about that either because I just got laid - off from my job recently also. Bottom line - our cars are fairly simple machines that anyone with a little research and a few tools can handle a repair on. Well anyhow Good Luck and thanks for letting me ramble- (run my mouth). Tom Quote
michael.warshaw Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Posted June 20, 2011 Mike, Please do not misunderstand this message it is not meant to anger or judge you or anyone. It is only "in my humble opinion" as lived through 37 years of experience with working on old cars. However, the guys that grab a wrench and a Service Manual seem to always come out way ahead of the guys that grab a wallet to restore their cars. Michael I really do hope you work out the bugs in your project with a minimum of money hassles. As I get older, I can see a day where I might have to rely upon someone else doing the work on my car as well, so Father Time will have its way with us all. I would still opt to pay a young person in my neighborhood to do as I instructed him/her to (while supervised) even if he/she had no experience whatsoever than to trust some of these so-called resto shops. They seem to thrive on what they think are "the well to do". What I'm trying to say is these shops think your loaded because you have an old car and have brought your old car to them. Case in point, my current 1948 Chrysler needed a clutch job in 2008, I bought it to a Transmission/Clutch Shop in Mooresville, NC (No Name listed on purpose), the owner wanted to do it time and material with no maximum price. When I pressed him for a price he finally said 3-4 K. I went home and did it myself for around $400. There doesn't seem to be a limit to some people's "Audacity". I hope your shop doesn't try to set you up as a mark on this one. Hell, I'd rather try a repair myself than be bamboozled like that. On a side note I recently drove by his shop, and I guess because of the economy - it is now shuttered down. I not happy about that either because I just got laid - off from my job recently also. Bottom line - our cars are fairly simple machines that anyone with a little research and a few tools can handle a repair on. Well anyhow Good Luck and thanks for letting me ramble- (run my mouth). Tom i agree Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 problem was every synchro in trans, was bad and the input shaft used and not new in the asche od and was causing slippage, bassically it was a wrecked tranny, that needed a rebuilding, after it was rebuilt. i think mr asche uses alot of used parts and not brand new to save some coin, this is just a huess, i think hes a knowledgable trans man, but this was sshock to me when the trans shop showed me the interior parts with 3 mioles on them, they have to be used. Quote
greg g Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 perhaps he uses what he considers the best of what he has as its doubt full there are a lot of new pieces floating around. Have you been in communication with George regarding the problem, or did you source your OD from a third party rather directly from George. Can you clarify "parts with 3 mioles on them, they have to be used" Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 perhaps he uses what he considers the best of what he has as its doubt full there are a lot of new pieces floating around. Have you been in communication with george regarding the problem, or did you source your od from a third party rather directly from george.Can you clarify "parts with 3 mioles on them, they have to be used" bought it at carlisle from george himself. Quote
greg g Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 OK but what are the 3 mioles and did you contact George regarding the issue? Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 when the car was finished being built they drove the car around the block for about 3 miles total, and after the trans stopped working. no i dint call george asche what was he going to do for me at this point. Quote
greg g Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 did the shop fill the trans with lubricant? did they use the proper oil/ Just on the off chance that George may have offered to assist you in the repair if it was based on problems with his workmanship or parts. So how is it driving/performing now? Had a couple of nice days to get some confidence miles on it. Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 there was fluid in it, now thats its all better drives great. Quote
1940plymouth Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Michael How about some photos to share with all of us, suppose to be a nice day again tomorrow Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 there was fluid in it, now thats its all better drives great. What fluid did they use? Was there fluid in it when it was first installed and first driven? I believe when George Asche ships a transmission he ships it dry and sends the (AMSOL) fluid he recommends seporately. If I were George Asche and one of my rebuilt transmissions failed I would want to know about it. Quote
michael.warshaw Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Posted October 24, 2011 just got out of the hospital i cant play with the cars till later in the week. Quote
Don Coatney Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 just got out of the hospital i cant play with the cars till later in the week. Bellevue or Manhatten? Quote
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