55 Fargo Posted October 19, 2010 Report Posted October 19, 2010 Hi all, just got back from a ride and to verify my speedo here it is as follows; 30 mph speedo=30 mph GPS 45 mph speedo=45 mph GPS 50 mph speedo=50 mph GPS 55 mph speedo=54 mph GPS 60 mph speedo=58/59mph GPS Metric 31 mph speedo=50 kmh GPS 46mph speedo=70kmh GPS 52 mph speedo=80kmh GPS 57mph speedo=90kmh GPS So I have a regular 3 spd trans,19 tooth speedo drive gear, 3.73 diff, P205 75 15 tires (27.1 inch aspect), and the speedo is not out that much at registering over at about 2 mph at 60 mph , which is really showing 62 mph on speedo, when actual speed is 60 mph. I am happy with this, I changed speedo heads last spring, and figured it was more accurate, now I have verification.........Fred Quote
TodFitch Posted October 19, 2010 Report Posted October 19, 2010 Looks like your speedometer is just about as accurate as an old analog device can be. I'd be very happy with that behavior on my speedometer. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Posted October 19, 2010 I'd say you have a darn good speedo there, Fred. Mine reads around 10 to 15 mph faster than actual speed, so I just try to account for it and not worry. What messes with your mind is when you're going 50 your needle says 65......or says 70 when doing around 55. And these old cars seem to be going faster than they really are. Quote
55 Fargo Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Posted October 19, 2010 I'd say you have a darn good speedo there, Fred.Mine reads around 10 to 15 mph faster than actual speed, so I just try to account for it and not worry. What messes with your mind is when you're going 50 your needle says 65......or says 70 when doing around 55. And these old cars seem to be going faster than they really are. You know Bob, except for some wind noise, around the doors (need new weatherstrip), and the front window too, this car rides really nice at 55 to 60 mph, even in a cross wind, it is very nice with no wind........Fred Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Posted October 19, 2010 See, Fred.........your old "clunker" has turned out to be a nice car with the work you've done on it. Quote
55 Fargo Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Posted October 19, 2010 See, Fred.........your old "clunker" has turned out to be a nice carwith the work you've done on it. Wait till I have the roof insulation, headliner, and trunk divider behind the seat insulated, it will be nice and quiet. I have drivers side window rattle, and will need to swap ina new window frame, which luckily I now have. Then want to rebuild front end, new rear springs or modern rear end, and the list goes on and on..........LOL Quote
P-12 Tommy Posted October 19, 2010 Report Posted October 19, 2010 Just like stone soup, eh? Tom Quote
55 Fargo Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Posted October 19, 2010 Just like stone soup, eh?Tom Or the story of "Nail Soup":eek:.................LOL:p Quote
martybose Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 My speedo is dead accurate at 60 MPH, but it is a mile off at 30 MPH (an indicated 30 MPH is actually almost 37 MPH; definite ticket country!) I'd have to find an oldtimer to overhaul the speedo head to fix it across the board. Marty Quote
Jim Yergin Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 Here is what I have posted in my car to determine actual speed Jim Yergin Speedometer Corrections.pdf Quote
Young Ed Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 Jim I spot checked a few and it looks like you'd be pretty close with a 15% reduction. The speedo thats currently in my car reads 20 at 30 45 at 60 and 90 at 90. So its not off a straight %. I've got a different one that seems great and will be swapping eventually. After about 6 speedo installs this summer I'm done. Quote
Gary Manes Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 These were nice cars (when everything worked)--comfortable, reliable and when driven correctly rock-solid on the highway. I am amazed how stable my '48 New Yorker is on the 15 mile drive up to my mom's. Both my '99 Honda coupe and my '76 Grand Marquis sway and react to the wind far too readily for my taste--but not the New Yorker! Our problem is just getting them back into that condition. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 Fred Thank you for providing the information in your oridginal post. Last week I posted that now that I have elimated the bounce in my speedometer needle I found that by using a GPS my speedometer is about 21% off, reading 38 at 30mph and 70 at 55mph. Sounds like BobT has the same problem. At least now I can start by checking and comparing the number of teeth on the speedometer gear and the rear end ratio and see if it's the same as yours. How do you know that your read end ratio is 3.73, is that standard for P-15s? Harold Quote
Young Ed Posted October 20, 2010 Report Posted October 20, 2010 3.73 is not standard for p15s. 3.90 or 4.10. I put a 3.73 in mine and changed the speedo gear to match. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Ed, where did you get your speedo gear?? Quote
Young Ed Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Out of a random transmission that was in Dads spare parts. Probably was the same car that donated my diff. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Posted October 22, 2010 Thanks for the reply.........I was hoping you had bought it from some vendor. I'm trying your trick - hung two different speedometers under the dash today as a temporary trial situation to see if they are any better than the one currently in the dash. Used the GPS to compare. One was right up til about 35 mph, then it was maybe 5 to 8 mph faster than I was travellng. The battery in the GPS ran down, so I just drove a bit with the other speedo.....but don't know if its accurte. Will try again tomorrow. I did pull the cable out of the housing, wiped as much of the lithium grease as I could off it. Sprayed some liquid graphite lock lubricant down the housing, and also put it on the cable before reinstalling. When that lithium grease gets cold enough, it makes the speedo go crazy. I actually disconnected it last winter for a while. Quote
Frank Elder Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 FredThank you for providing the information in your oridginal post. Last week I posted that now that I have elimated the bounce in my speedometer needle I found that by using a GPS my speedometer is about 21% off, reading 38 at 30mph and 70 at 55mph. Sounds like BobT has the same problem. At least now I can start by checking and comparing the number of teeth on the speedometer gear and the rear end ratio and see if it's the same as yours. How do you know that your read end ratio is 3.73, is that standard for P-15s? Harold Fred doesn't have a p15, he has a big chrysler. Quote
55 Fargo Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Posted October 24, 2010 FredThank you for providing the information in your oridginal post. Last week I posted that now that I have elimated the bounce in my speedometer needle I found that by using a GPS my speedometer is about 21% off, reading 38 at 30mph and 70 at 55mph. Sounds like BobT has the same problem. At least now I can start by checking and comparing the number of teeth on the speedometer gear and the rear end ratio and see if it's the same as yours. How do you know that your read end ratio is 3.73, is that standard for P-15s? Harold As stated by Frankie, I have a 47 C38 Chrysler Royal Coupe, 218 Canadian 6 cyl Flat head, no fluid drive, 3 spd trans, dry clutch, and 3.73 rear end. How do I know I have a 3.73 diff, because I installed the 3 rd member into the axle housing, and it was stamped right on the gear "3.73", as well as on the housing itself. You can check on top of your hog head, and see if you can see what number is stamped up htere, or mark the driveshaft, and roll the back wheels, then count revolutions of back tires to 1 complete revolution of your drive shaft, if it is just under 4 revolutions of the wheels, you may have a 3.9 to 1 diff as an example.....Fred Quote
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