Northwind Posted July 29, 2010 Report Posted July 29, 2010 Hi, Stopped by NAPA looking for a master cylinder kit and my truck isn't listed in their confuser. What I have is a B-4-G-158 dump truck. Does it use the same MC as other models? Had the brake booster rebuilt over the winter and did the wheel cylinders as well as all new linings. Now just need to redo the MC. Thanks Northwind Paul in Wasilla, Alaska Quote
Merle Coggins Posted July 29, 2010 Report Posted July 29, 2010 According to my parts book there are 2 different master cylinders for the Pilot-House trucks. 695696 - w/o Brake Booster (for B thru G Series) 696383 - w/ Brake Booster (for F thru R series) 695696 crosses to a Napa Ultra Premium UP544 (online price $146.26) 696383 crosses to a Napa Ultra Premium UP785 (online price $260.22) If you only want a rebuild kit maybe they can back track it from the M/C number. Merle Quote
Northwind Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Posted July 29, 2010 Merle, Thanks for the part numbers, now to see if they or anyone else in this one horse town has it. More than likely they will need to order it from America. Thanks again, Paul Quote
KJ's Dodge Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Our local NAPA looked up 696383 - w/ Brake Booster (for F thru R series) and there was not one in the country. If you find one let me know. Thanks, KJ Edited July 30, 2010 by KJ's Dodge Quote
dontknowitall Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Not sure what year truck but maybe this helps.. http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php Related Parts 1953 DODGE B-4 DU 3.8L 230cid L6 : Brake/Wheel Hub : Master Cylinder Wiki Price RAYBESTOS Part # MC544 Professional Grade; Bore Size=1 1/4" Number of Ports=3 Primary Outlet Size=1/4x18 NPT Secondary Outlet Size=3/8x18 NPT B-4-DU B-4-D Hi, Stopped by NAPA looking for a master cylinder kit and my truck isn't listed in their confuser. What I have is a B-4-G-158 dump truck. Does it use the same MC as other models? Had the brake booster rebuilt over the winter and did the wheel cylinders as well as all new linings. Now just need to redo the MC. Thanks Northwind Paul in Wasilla, Alaska Quote
HanksB3B Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Try Gary, Mine was a perfect fit. http://www.robertsmotorparts.com/truck_parts.asp?Action=search&t=&Search=&c=Trucks+%2D+Brake+Parts&page=2 T33C Master cylinder assembly 1/2 ton to 1 ton, (without booster) 31-36 ply 30-36 Rest Category: Cars - Brake Parts Trucks - Brake Parts 30-58 Trucks w no booster 30-36 Chry, Dod,Des, 31- $129.0 T35A Master cylinder repair kit 1 1/4 bore Category: Cars - Brake Parts Trucks - Brake Parts 30-58 Trucks 30-36 Cars $27.50 Not Michael.. Edited July 30, 2010 by HanksB3B Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Hi, Stopped by NAPA looking for a master cylinder kit and my truck isn't listed in their confuser. What I have is a B-4-G-158 dump truck. Does it use the same MC as other models? Had the brake booster rebuilt over the winter and did the wheel cylinders as well as all new linings. Now just need to redo the MC. Thanks Northwind Paul in Wasilla, Alaska Your truck with the single diaphram brake booster uses a 1-1/2" bore Master cylinder. All other standard non booster dodge trucks use a 1-1/4" bore M/C. Thats why you are having trouble finding a new one. I think Napa can supply a kit-Napa #71 is the kit number from a 1982 Napa brake parts book . #785 is the Napa new M/C part number for a 1-1/2" bore. A lot of Napa's brake parts for antique cars and trucks seem to be mostly chinese produced parts as of recent and their parts numbering has changed too, making it harder to cross numbers over. Keep lookin- you will find what you need. Bob Quote
Northwind Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Posted July 30, 2010 Well, went to NAPA armed with the above info. There isn't a 71 kit in Alaska but they can order one from Ill., (there are only six in the US if you trust their computer) Only $26 or so but a "special order", shipping is $56! I think I'll make one out of a Moose's nose before I get held up by them. Search goes on. Northwind Paul Quote
Young Ed Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Ive never shipped anything to alaska. Would it be cheaper to have someone here get it from their local store(somewhere that has one of the six) and then ship it up there themselves? Quote
Merle Coggins Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 I would think a master cylinder kit would easily fit in a small Flat Rate box at the post office. $5 to ship it that way would be much better than $56. Quote
Dave72dt Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Roberts lists a T35D Master cyl rebuild kit, 1 1/2 bore for 24.50 Whether or not he has one in stock is another matter. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 Well, went to NAPA armed with the above info. There isn't a 71 kit in Alaska but they can order one from Ill., (there are only six in the US if you trust their computer) Only $26 or so but a "special order", shipping is $56! I think I'll make one out of a Moose's nose before I get held up by them. Search goes on.Northwind Paul Thats a major Napa rip job! They (Napa) never used to charge me SO shipping and I buy a lot of wholesale from Napa ! Now they charge everyone outrageous high shipping rates! Good ole days are gone.... Quote
Dave72dt Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 I had been getting charged shipping on SO for the last several years when it had to be shipped in from a different warehouse than what they normally stocked from. If you weren't in a hurry to get the part and could wait for their normal shipping relocation of parts you might be able to save on shipping costs, if they would do it that way for you. Maybe it always costs more to ship to Alaska. Maybe you have to say I want it but I don't want it special ordered. Put it on your regular order list and call me when it comes in. Quote
Northwind Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Posted July 31, 2010 Yup, everyone thinks that Alaska is on the far side of the moon and tries to charge like they had to personally carry it here! Yes the shipping to Alaska is high. FedExecsive and UPS are about $6/lb on their next day rate and $5/lb for 2nd day. Their ground services still comes up here on the same plane with the other high price stuff but they let it age properly $4.75/lb before delivery. For real heavy shipments is best to use a consolidator that fills up a van twice a week and send it by SeaLand or Tote. That only takes a week but most places wont even think about offering that service. The flat rate boxes from USPS are a real good deal up here but again just try to get a vendor in America to use them. Vendor's get a huge discount up to 75% for using Fedex or UPS and you the customer get to pay full price plus a little for handling. I have my sister in Grant's Pass, Or send me stuff all the time. Off the soapbox for now and out looking for parts. Paul Northwind Quote
HanksB3B Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) It's probably your ex-(rated) governess's fault. (Now you can understand what Dick was thinking) Originally she wanted to restrict shipping by routing parts purchased in Massachusetts directly to Russia (I mean..if you can see it from your house it can't be that far away) and then by a combination of shipping across the Bering Sea and trucking across the Aleutian Islands and then finally to Alaska. Another option considerd was of course the obvious one...Dogsled Or my sister could always get it to you by truck... When you think about it, there's really nothing to complain about. Best of Luck, Hank Edited July 31, 2010 by HanksB3B Quote
Northwind Posted August 1, 2010 Author Report Posted August 1, 2010 Well, I found one at RockAuto the last one) but again shipping is a little bit better than NAPA but still $26.xx for a $18.47 part. If there is anyone in Wisconsin that would help me out, please PM. Thanks, Paul Northwind Quote
48Dodger Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 Hank....I'm starting worry you have to much time on your hands. lol:D 48D Quote
HanksB3B Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 It's been a great summer with my truck running like a champ and winning trophies, but you're right I do have way too much time on my hands. Hopefully I'l find a job soon. Maybe I should give up Architecture and take up import/export what do you think? Hank Quote
norrism1 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 It's been a great summer with my truck running like a champ and winning trophies, but you're right I do have way too much time on my hands. Hopefully I'l find a job soon. Maybe I should give up Architecture and take up import/export what do you think?Hank You could always shovel show filled driveways. After all you are in Alaska. Sorry couldn't resist. It's getting expensive to ship anything anywhere even down here in the lower 48. Quote
HanksB3B Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 Not complaining but it's bee 64deg in the morning and up to 73deg in the afternoon for the entire month of July. Based on that come winter maybe it'll snow down at the beach. Hank Quote
Merle Coggins Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 Well, I found one at RockAuto the last one) but again shipping is a little bit better than NAPA but still $26.xx for a $18.47 part. If there is anyone in Wisconsin that would help me out, please PM.Thanks, Paul Northwind I am in Wisconsin. Rock Auto is out of Madison (about 65 miles from me) but I don't know how much they stock. I have a feeling that they drop ship everything from their suppliers. If you can get me their part number, or a link to the part on their web site, I can see if I can get a better deal on shipping for you. I believe a small Flat Rate box through the USPS is $5.99, so as long as I can get the parts to me for under $20 that would be better, right? Under $10 would probably be better. Merle PS. You keep refering to things coming from the US but last I checked Alaska is still part of the US. I understand things in the lower 48 are a bit different than up there in the Big A, but I agree that you're getting screwed on shipping. Quote
Dave72dt Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 Merle, I checked myself and they wanted just over $20 for shipping and tax, add the cost of a small flate rate box and it's within pennies of shipping direct to him. I was getting the same impression of it being a drop ship business with no actual walkin store. if such was the case , I'm sure store hours would have been posted on their website. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 From their FAQ section Q: Why are your prices so much lower than at my local store or dealership? A: Our prices are lower because our costs are lower. Local stores have to buy inventory, put it on the shelf and pay someone to stand at a counter looking up parts in paper catalogs or in the store's computer system. A part may sit on the shelf for a year or more before someone with that particular vehicle needs that particular part and decides to buy it from that particular store--when they do, the store owner needs to recover a year's worth of cost in one sale. RockAuto customers choose their own parts using our online catalog. We ship directly to our customers from wholesale warehouses or manufacturers. We have no retail stores, no counter-people and we don't have a lot of money tied up in slow-moving inventory. We pass the savings on to our customers with lower prices. Our cost savings are all in distribution, though--the parts we sell are the same first-quality merchandise you'd find in any reputable store. Quote
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