D25 Build in Progress

[D25_Owner]

Hello folks,

It's been a few months since I posted progress on my D25 that many of you have been helpful with. Now I'm preparing to install the engine & transmission. The drive train was disassembled with many missing parts when I got the car. I'm not sure if I have all the parts I need or where some of the parts I have are supposed to go. If anyone has an exploded parts picture or any visual reference to the brackets & linkages for shifting rods, park brake & clutch etc., I would greatly appreciate a look. I searched here, the web and my service manual but no luck so far. Thanks for any help.

Dave

Edited August 17, 2014 by D25_Owner

[55 Fargo]

Very nice, now how did you come to acquire this Canuck car, ?

I will see what I can find for you on the linkage and will post later, I am sure someon will chime in before me.

Welcome to the forum, your engie looks real good with the added chrome, is that 218 Canuck long block engine?

[55 Fargo]

Here are 2 diagrams from a Chrysler 41 to 48 Shop Manual, should be the same for your D25 set-up.....

[D25_Owner]

Thanks for the pictures Rockwood! I found the car on the local Craigslist. I was told the previous owner shipped it here. He started taking the car apart to restore it, then he passed away. The car was in pieces and sold by the estate.

I don't think the engine is original, it is a long block and based on it's current & bore stroke (3.438 x 4.250), it works out to 237ci. The cylinders were bored by a machine shop to their current size. I don't know what they used to be.

Edited March 5, 2010 by D25_Owner

[55 Fargo]

Thanks Rockwood, I found the car on the local Craigslist. I was told the previous owner shipped it here. He started taking the car apart to restore it then passed away. The car was left in pieces and sold by the estate.

I don't think the engine is original, it is a long block and based on it's current bore stroke (3.438 x 4.250) It's a 237.

Can you post the engine number, it is on the left siude of the block near the front, this will tell us if it is an original D25 engine...

[D25_Owner]

[Frank Elder]

Plymouth engine, not sure what year a p24 was.

[55 Fargo]

Thatis a 228 Canadian Plym engine from a 53 or 54 Plym, you know what let me double check on this....Fred

[55 Fargo]

The P 24 engine is from a 1953 Plymouth, being a Canadian engine it would have been a 218 with a standard ttrans, will still have an 8 bolt crank. If it were a 228 engine, it would have the longer stroke, and now that the cyls are bored out, it would also increase displacement.

So for Canada the P24 engine would be a 218, or 228 engine.

Interesting enough, this blcok, like mine could be made into a 251 or 265 with different crank and rods, and pistons.

I presently have a Canadian 218 long block from a 1951 Dodge D40, in my 47 Chrysler Coupe, this is mated to a 3 spd trans, dry clutch and 3.73 rear end, so my car is a modified............LOL

Edited March 4, 2010 by Rockwood

[greg g]

Nice!!! Like the engine colors. very tastfull.

[55 Fargo]

Thanks for the pictures Rockwood! I found the car on the local Craigslist. I was told the previous owner shipped it here. He started taking the car apart to restore it, then he passed away. The car was in pieces and sold by the estate.

I don't think the engine is original, it is a long block and based on it's current & bore stroke (3.438 x 4.250), it works out to 237ci. The cylinders were bored by a machine shop to their current size. I don't know what they used to be.

Here are the engine specs for Canadian built 6 cyl 218 and 228 engines. Incidentally all Canuck engines are long block, not 23s were made in Canada.

218 CI 3.375 Bore 4.0625 stroke

228 CI 3.375 Bore 4.25 Stroke

Your engine sounds like a 228, with a .060 over bore, to bring it to 237.

Now did you deck the block or shave the head, that will make the compression higher, and give you a little more HP and oomph.

I would venture to guess your HP would be in the 110 HP range, without any add-ons..........Fred

[martybose]

The double-armed bellcrank looks like part of the shift linkage. The bracket bolts to the bellhousing, and the arm connects to a transmission arm.

The other one looks to me like a throttle bellcrank that mounts to the head.

Marty

[T120]

...Your car is coming along nicely.Here's another couple of views of the linkage -the second is taken from a Chrysler Canada shop manual,

[B-Watson]

P24 1 6149 C

P24 - 1953 Plymouth

1 - Cambridge series

6149 - 5,149th engine built

C - Canadian production

When the 1953 model year began, the Canadian Plymouth P24 and Dodge D43 used a 218-cid engine, 3-3/8" bore with 4-1/16" stroke.

In April, 1953, Chrysler of Canada introduced Hy-Drive on the P24 and D43, introduced new "-3" series (Belvedere and Mayfair) with fancier interiors and more exterior trim, and a larger engine - 228.1-cid by extending the stroke to 4.25". Compression ratio was raised from 6.7:1 to 7.0:1, resulting in horsepower rising from 97 for the 218 to 108 on the 228.

The change came at the following engine numbers :

P24-1-4052C

P24-2-8322C

D43-1-3390C

D43-2-8270C

The new "-3" engine numbers started at P24-3-1001C and D43-3-1001C.

So, engine number P24-1-6149C should be a 228.1-cid engine.

Bill

Vancouver, BC

[Fireball]

The smaller bracket in picture, with three holes belongs to handbrake. That part goes directly over the cable covers end under the car. The loop holds a thimble which creates umbrella type seal between cable cover/cable.

Really nice job btw.!

[BeBop138]

Beautiful car, nicely done:D

[D25_Owner]

Thanks everyone for the information...this is a great group.

Ralph, The pictures are super helpful, thank you.

Bill W, Thanks for the engine ID. I guess now with an extra 9ci. (237) and the head was milled some, perhaps it's pulling 110-115 hp?

Fireball, Thanks, I think that's all I need for the H brake now.



 

Edited August 17, 2014 by D25_Owner

[pflaming]

I copy and save/paste every engine with a different color scheme. Your two-toned gray/charcoal/chrome accent is absolutely gorgeous. WOW! I put it on my screen background so I can appreciate it longer. Be sure to show it again when it is installed.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, I love the creativity in old car/truck restoration, it's just amazing. Well done!!!

What are the two colors? AND great looking coupe!!!!

Edited March 6, 2010 by pflaming

[D25_Owner]

Thanks PFlaming! I used Black, Silver & Pewter paint.

Here's the other side (a little blurry), I'll try to take better pictures as progress continues.

[pflaming]

Used ". . . Black, Silver & Pewter paint".

Is the block flat or semi-gloss black? The head, carb and mount, and front motor mount is pewter. Is pewter only in one color? and the manifold is silver. The rest is chromed. Like the Dodge commercial of a few years back, "SWEET"! In a black engine compartment that is going to look nice. Send us a picture when it is all complete.

On the 2nd exhaust port from the right you have some device. What is it?

[Niel Hoback]

Thats the electric choke mounted on the top of the manifold.

[D25_Owner]

I set the engine & bell housing in today. It's was a tight fit, the load leveler was a big help.

I'm hooking up all the external stuff now. I think I'm missing the rear, lower mount rubber...if it had any. -Dave

Edited March 9, 2010 by D25_Owner

[greg g]

Very sharp!!

[pflaming]

I'm working with a Pilot-house truck, I was not aware just how tight the engine compartment of the early cars is. That is a beautiful sight. Good work.