1948mando Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hello my friends. I am in the market of buying some rims but I do not know the size in pattern? Are my rims a 5-1/2 inch bolt pattern and if not will this fit my special Deluxe? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybose Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 The bolt pattern is 5 x 4-1/2", which is the same as most contemporary Fords and late model Mopars. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyHarold Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 You also have to look at the backspacing of the rim. If the backspace is wrong, the lug bolts will fit but the tire will be too far 'in' and can rub suspension components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveplym Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Be sure to check the backspacing as the others have said. I called wheel vintiques and bought a set. Everything was pretty good on them, but the wheels on the front rubbed when I would turn hard. I finally sold the wheels, but the backspacing is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Be sure to check the backspacing as the others have said. I called wheel vintiques and bought a set. Everything was pretty good on them, but the wheels on the front rubbed when I would turn hard. I finally sold the wheels, but the backspacing is key. What is the correct back spacing and can I run a spacer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 finding lug bolts of the right length to run a spacer is your killer 1/4-5/16 is probably the max stock lug bolts will support and usually these are on the front just to clear tie rod ends when using a stock Chrylser rim through the mid 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 finding lug bolts of the right length to run a spacer is your killer 1/4-5/16 is probably the max stock lug bolts will support and usually these are on the front just to clear tie rod ends when using a stock Chrylser rim through the mid 80's What i want to put on my car are some rims like these if any one has any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurice wade Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Mando, what vehicle did that rim come off of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Those are mid 30s mopar rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Mando, what vehicle did that rim come off of? These are off of a Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Norm..those are similar enough in the spoke area..what style center cap went on the rim..the trim rings are an added touch..but the most important question is..what is the depth of the backspacing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you have a back spacing problem you can use these spacers. I have some like these on my 38 Dodge Coupe and my 52 Dodge 1/2 ton and my 59 Wagon. I just wanted a wider stance. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-WRANGLER-5X4-50-Wheel-Spacer-Adapters-2-00-2pc_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1240Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem563367255dQQitemZ370229585245QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Actually' date=' those wheels look like they could be from something like the Bronco or Ranger trucks. Here's an extra set of 84 Bronco wheels that I have and they fit the P15.[/quote']These wheels are verry diff in your picture Noem. The ones im asking about do belong on the old cars but I do not think that Plymouth offered them [/quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Heres a set that I have om my Fleetmaster Edited July 23, 2009 by 1948mando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Plymouth had those in the mid 30s. Commonly called artillery wheels. They would be 16s being from that era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) I ask because the ones Norm shows don't appear to be much off from stock in backset..I found that with modern Mopar steels through late 80's that on most front wheel applications to these old hoopies that an approx. 1/4 inch spacer is adequate.. I buy adapters for mopar at swap meets all the time, in a couple of my application where I am running positive offset wheels these are needed..Mopar has made a many very nice aluminum wheels from the early 90's and up that are more attractive than the majority of aftermarket wheels and cost wise very affordable at the local wrecking yard even compared to chromed wheels that are available on todays market. Positive offset wheels are also one of the better means to making an available onhand rear gear transplant easy instead of searching for a rare and expensive 8 3/4 unit. I put a very wide compared to stock 1979 Newport 9 1/4 Mopar under the 52 club coupe in 2.88 posi gears..1998 Dodge Intrepid 16 x 8 offset wheels filled the wheel well with all meat..matching the front did use a set of adapters (5 x 4.5/5 x 4.5 by 1.5) kept the front stance equal to the rear and again filled the wheel well nicely..using 225-60-16's Edited May 24, 2017 by Plymouthy Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1948mando Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Plymouth had those in the mid 30s. Commonly called artillery wheels. They would be 16s being from that era. Yes this early style of rim is what I need.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Angulo Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Yes this early style of rim is what I need.. I want a set myself for my 48 Dodge! Does anyone know if those 30's have the same bolt pattern and would 16's be to big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelOkie Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I got 4 of these artillery wheels with the 36 Plymouth I bought last summer, and found one more to buy later, as I wanted a full set, and one for a spare. Although I have since decided I am not going to use them, I have worked off and on at cleaning them up and getting some paint on them as a protective measure, as they are all still in usable condition, and too good to let just rust away. The wheels I have are the standard bolt pattern 5 X 4.5, 16" X 4", and were made by Motor Wheel Co., Lansing Michigan, per the manufacturer's stamp. If that was a company commonly supplying Chrysler with wheels, or not, I don't personally know, but it seems likely. I have also seen referenced 17 X 3.25, or 3.75 artillery wheels that are supposed to be Plymouth, but these are the only artillery wheels I have ever personally owned, and I don't know about other sizes that were ever used, nor when. Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlemo Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I'm thinking that wheel spacers and adapters are different in that spacers use existing lug bolts, but adapters have there own lug bolts. Therefore, when using adapters, original lug bolt length is not an item ??? In my "youth", I used wheel adapters to run Alum slot Chev. wheels on my 49 Ford pickup !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlemo Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Wow, was looking in my garage and actually found a set of wheel adapters that I used on my 49 Ford Pickup !! In those days we often used adapters as spacers to "set out" our tires making our wheel base width look wider. No problems with rim back spacing. You could get them Ford to Ford, Ford to Chevrolet, etc... We thought they looked "COOL" !!! Edited August 3, 2011 by littlemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 You can buy new wheels made by Wheelvintiques that have 10 holes and will work on Mopar, furd, and GM without spacers. I am using such wheels on my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelOkie Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I used those on my 48 Plymouth, and I plan to use them on my 36, as it has a Ford front end and a Chevy rear end...makes it nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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