Brad Lustig Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Anyone heard or used this stuff? I ran across it in a boating magazine. http://www.crcindustries.com/auto/content/prod_detail.aspx?PN=05002&S=N I guess it gives new meaning to "freezing your nuts off" Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Haven't used it or heard of it. However, there are other penetrates on the market that are a lot safer and work just as well, if not better. If you click on the MSDS link for Freeze Off you'll see it's highly flammable, so I would not use it on a hot engine, or if I was also using a torch to help remove the frozen bolt or nut. Plus it says not to use around some plastics. That indicates a strong solvent in it. Quote
Brad Lustig Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Posted January 9, 2007 That plastic warning may be because the temperature drop may make the plastic brittle. PB Blaster is still at front of my shelf for general use. Quote
rearview Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 I just picked up a can of that stuff last weekend, haven't had a chance to try it yet though. Only reason I bought it was it intrigued me. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 I just picked up a can of that stuff last weekend, haven't had a chance to try it yet though. Only reason I bought it was it intrigued me. You mentioned you were going to try to make it to the Jan 20th meeting in Milwaukee. If you make it I'll give you a can of good stuff (non flammable) and anyone else who wants a can at the meeting. Quote
rearview Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Last time I was offereed a can of good stuff I got a hangover Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Last time I was offereed a can of good stuff I got a hangover My good stuff may be safer, but I would not recommend drinking it. Quote
bob westphal Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 I haven't ever heard of a non flamable product used for loosening rusted bolts. Liquid Wrench, WD, NAPA Loosenal, CRC, etc, are all flamable. What's the name of this super non flamable rust eater? Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Here it is here. Flash point on it is 200 degrees F. Don't usually promote products here. Also we don't sell it by the can. If you do want to buy it by the can try calling Lynn's Auto Parts & Machine in Duncan, Okla.(a NAPA dealer) Web site http://www.lynnsauto.com/ Not sure how he sells it by the case or individual cans. http://www.indfloorcoating-repair.com/nutbusterpenetratingoilliterature.htm Quote
1just4don Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 PB Blaster and Kroil here. I found a gallon can of kroil for about the same price as two aresol cans and lasts much 'longer' in an old WD-40 squirt bottle. There is still a couple cans of some cheapie stuff rolling around here but doesnt get used much cept for making a rusty nut roll better on the bolt! Dad was too tight to buy a can of anything. He was given some once for helping at my uncles sale. Thats the 'first' I have ever known around here!! Before that ,,,diesel fuel only!! Quote
bob westphal Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Norm, I would call a product that has a flash point of 200 degrees, FLAMABLE!!!! Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Brad, Anything with a flash point below 105 degrees F. is flammable. 105 degrees and up to around 150 or 175 (would have to look it up) is combustible but non flammable. Anything over that is rated as Non Flammable by government standards. I use the Nut Buster with a torch for really stubborn things. It does not flame, but will boil. So by industry and government standards Nut Buster is Non Flammable. If you spray some out and try to light it with a match it will put out the match. Do that with a flammable product like WD 40 and you'll be holding a torch in a can with a flame several feet long. Sorry should have said Bob. Quote
greg g Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Norm, I am hoping that lots of pictures will be taken at your get together. Even if the faces are put with forum handles, for those that can't attend it would be nice to meet the gang. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Greg, I was hoping for a little bigger response too. So far we know about 5 of us are going to make it. Maybe it's just the wrong time of year. Quote
Young Ed Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Norm I don't think I'll be able to make the January one. Its a little too far for me. I am certainly planning on the may one. Trying to talk some friends into camping with me and then driving both the coupe and the pickup to the show. Quote
1just4don Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The local blacksmith ONLY uses Kroil.(((for rusty bolts))) His comment is WD-40 's only 'GOOD' use is to start chainsaws,lawnmowers and similiar things that wont start otherwise. Lots of time they will fire up on the good ole WD-40 rather than regular gas cause its more flamable!! Sounds like a good use of it to me!!! Quote
Guest Nile Limbaugh Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The WD in WD40 stands for water displacer. We used to use it in a car wash if the distributor got so much water in around the plug wires that it wouldn't start. Just flood the cap with WD 40, the water is forced out and the car starts! Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The WD in WD40 stands for water displacer. We used to use it in a car wash if the distributor got so much water in around the plug wires that it wouldn't start. Just flood the cap with WD 40, the water is forced out and the car starts! Nile, I know WD 40 says it displaces water. However, it really doesn't do that either. What is actually displacing the water is the propellant in the can. Then once the water is pushed off of the wires, the silicone coating stays to keep the wires from getting wet again. To prove that run this simple test. Fill a cup with water then spray as much WD 40 as you want into that cup. The stuff actually floats, so it really isn't displacing water. Now, take a can of something like the Nut Buster I posted (or even Kroil or some others) and run the same test. It does not float, it sinks to the bottom because it really is displacing the water. So, in the end, if you just want to displace water, you can use an air hose and save the WD 40 for what Don mentioned below. Quote
48mirage Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 The secret ingredient in WD40 is stoddard solvent. It is made from fish oil and is a water dispersant. After your little experiment with WD40 pour the water out and the 'oil' will still adhere to the glass. The oil has greater surface tension and will diperse water from the cracks and crevices. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Is that the same stuff Clark put in his non-nuclear cereal varnish? I would not be more surprised if I woke up with my hair stapled to the carpet. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Well, I don't know all the ingredients in WD 40, just what it says on the can. However, if it really does have stoddard solvent in it and really does displace the water, run the test I mentioned in a styrofoam cup. If that stoddard solvent sinks to the bottom it will put a hole in the cup and the water will leak out. Run the same test with the better penetrating oils and they will put a hole in the bottom of the cup showing it does displace the water and doesn't float. I can save you some time and trouble. The WD 40 will float and will not put a hole in the cup. I've used this demonstration many times over the years. Quote
Brad Lustig Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Posted January 9, 2007 I'm drawing a blank on the exact name but don't forget about the Mopar penetrant (exhaust manifold spray). We've discussed it before on the old forum. People outside of the Mopar community have said it was better than Kroil and PB Blaster. Quote
Brad Lustig Posted January 9, 2007 Author Report Posted January 9, 2007 Yeah, I've come to realize that WD-40 is about useless as a rust buster. A dead giveaway is look in your garage for the rustiest can out there. It's invariably the WD-40 can. About the only thing I use it for is removing labels from stuff. Quote
Tim Frank Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 While it may be OT, the discussion of flammable versus combustible etc. for some reason reminded me of my all time favorite column by Dave Barry. If all the the US ever had to brag about was being the birth place of Dave Barry's humour that would alone be an admirable legacy ~ never mind stuff like medicines and airplanes.... Check out "Nuclear picnic". These guys take barbecuing more seriously than we take Mopars. http://www.interweavers.com/brett/humor/dave-barry.html Quote
Ed Griffin Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 The CRC Lectra- motive contact cleaner you can get will eat certain plastic's as labeled on the can. I can vouch for that. Thinking it was the same as the older type contact cleaner I've used in the past, I sprayed it on my keyboard. Needless to say I'm using the old one now. That stuff started melting everything. If the simple contact cleaner will do that then this Freeze Off will probably be the same way so be careful where you spray it! It doesnt need fire to melt and is in no way similer to the old type contact cleaner that you cant get anymore because of the "ozone." Quote
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