Robin (UK)

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I fitted a 4" stick-on convex mirror on the passenger side, to increase the viewing angle. There's a huge blind spot in the convertible when the top's up (which is most of the time in the UK!) and, to make it harder, we drive on the 'wrong' side, so a good view in the passenger side mirror is essential!

So-Cal swan necks on my P15...

Cheesecake, Guinness and a P-15 Picnic souvenir notebook... The perfect table setting! It was great to see you again Mark.

Following Simon's lead, I'll chip in too. I own the red Convertible. I imported the car to the UK 15 years ago but have been on the Forum longer than that, as I previously owned a P15 Club Coupe. Since i got it, my car's undergone a bit of a 'high school hop up' and now runs dual carbs through an Edmunds intake, Fenton headers with twin exhausts, Fenton finned ali head, and an R10 overdrive transmission. The rear has been lowered 1.5 inches, it wears fender skirts with '41 Buick trims, blu-dot rear lenses, half-moon headlamp shields, Mopar electric gas cap and Hollywood flipper hubcaps. My convertible was supplied new on 3rd September 1947 by Gettysburg Motors in Pennsylvania and remained in Gettysburg until I bought it in 2004.

Here's the glovebox notebook that everyone got as a souvenir...

We just held our 5th Annual P-15 Picnic in England and were delighted to welcome a record number of owners and cars for two days of Plymouth-filled fun. With Mark joining us from the USA, Tommi travelling from Finland, Martin from Sweden and cars gathering from all over the UK, it was a very special weekend. The weather wasn't great, but the atmosphere was superb, with cruise-outs to two local museums and a lovely dinner and dancing at the hotel. The line-up of cars was truly impressive, with a total of fifteen P15s or derivatives and several 'guest' classics. We'll be doing it all again in September 2020... you're all welcome to join us! Here's the roll of honor: 1946–1948 Plymouth and Derivatives: 242 UYE - 4-Door Sedan - John & Elly 424 YUJ - Business Coupe – Simon & Julie 562 YUG – Convertible Coupe – Chris & Rebecca 763 UYX – 4-Door Sedan (D25) - Richard & Karen 774 UXB – 4-Door Sedan - Garry & Gaynor 782 XUL – 2-Door Sedan - Dean & Joyce 977 XUP – Club Coupe - Colin & Liz ESK 523 – Club Coupe – Mel & Sue MSJ 674 – Club Coupe - Ian & Marie UVS 437 – Club Coupe (SP15) - Dusty & Deb WXG 507 – Business Coupe – Tony & Dawna WXG 932 - Business Coupe – Alan & Annette XAS 458 – Convertible Coupe – Robin & Colette YVL 306 – Business Coupe - Terry & Amanda YWG 566 – Club Coupe - Steve & Hayley 1946–1948 Chrysler: 268 XUR - Club Coupe – William Guest Cars: 1927 Ford T Hot Rod 1937 Plymouth – Russ & Steph 1938 Ford 1939 Dodge – Simon 1940 Plymouth – Nigel & Jan 1947 Nash – Bob & Irene 1948 Chevrolet – Richard & Lynne 1953 Buick 1953 Plymouth Convertible – Paul & Rita 1953 Chevrolet – Rob & Sue 1975(?) Dodge Truck – Spud & Katie

Here you go, I found this on the web... Desoto1946-48 Wiring.pdf

A couple of other details that will help... The business coupe has flat rear window glass. A club coupe will have a larger, curved rear window. Business coupes have a swage line that runs from the doors along the rear 3/4 panels above the stainless trim towards the rear lights. The swage line on the club coupe goes along the doors then around under the rear window.

I just picked up the April issue of Street Machine magazine and there are pictures of three P15s out and about in the UK. It looks like that front three-quarter angle is a photographer's dream!

Some more for you...

This has come up before and I posted some reference pictures. The D25 bumpers are definitely different to P15 bumpers. Same cross-section, but not the same brackets or bolt positions. Here's a link to my earlier post. I hope this helps...

I'm in West London. Check out our facbeook page at www.facebook.com/4648PDDCUK - we set it up for 46-48 cars but there are plenty of other flathead owners on there from the UK and overseas. You'll be welcome. We also get together one a year, in September (at The P-15 Picnic). Drop me a an email and I'll send details to you.

Always good to see another UK member on here. Hope to catch up with you somewhere soon.

I've fitted 1 1/2" blocks to the rear, for a mild 'speedboat stance'. Comparison to the 'before' shot shows how the nose is now riding very slightly higher, so I am planning a subtle 1/2"-3/4" drop at the front, to complete the look.

The lower one is Plymouth convertible, in my car. The upper one is different, although the bracket's the same. That's the one I'm trying to ID. Thanks.

Thanks Brent. Those arms are close and would probably be OK as a last resort if we can't ID the version with the U-bend. As you say, somebody out there will know. I hope! All the best from England, Robin

Hi All, I'm here from the other side! (I'm usually on the car Forum). Can anyone help to ID the bracket shown at the top in this picture? I believe it's from a Dodge truck but I don't know which year. I'm helping a friend to source parts for restoration of a 1947 Plymouth convertible and I have this spare bracket which is very close to the stock item, but we don't know what to look for, as a match for the driver's side. Thanks for any help you can give. Robin

Nice one, Damon. We'll reserve a room for you. Look out for emails. See you soon, Robin

It'd be a very long trip for most of you but if anyone's in the UK next September, you'll be very welcome to join us at our P-15 Picnic. We'd love to meet you! Here's a link to the facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/2098450070469750

It's good to hear that you enjoyed the weekend, Simon. Thanks again for the great pictures. Glad you like the flag design... I guess we'll have to think about stickers!

Hope you can make it someday... the more the merrier! PM me your email address if you'd like to be included in our circular mail-outs for news of The P-15 Picnic.

Suggestions are always welcome but this one's definitely going to remain as The P-15 Picnic. The three of us who organise it are all Plymouth owners and the initial concept was a meeting for P15s. We widened out the invitations after a (very reasonable) request from William (AKA Norman Pitkin) to include Chrysler and the other Mopar brands. There are plenty of broader car meets over here, and we wouldn't turn anyone away, but we all enjoy the exclusivity and scale of this gathering, and it's got a unique personal feel.

Couple more pictures...

We just held our 4th Annual P-15 Picnic in England and were honoured to be joined by well known Plymouth enthusiasts Mark & Tracey Duggan and Greg & Kathy Gonya, who travelled from the US to spend the weekend with us. 35 people and a very nice selection of cars arrived at the hotel on Saturday and we enjoyed a drive out to Twinwood Airfield, where we had arranged a private group visit to the museum buildings and preserved control tower. Twinwood is an historic WW2 site, the airfield from where Glenn Miller departed for France on his ill-fated flight in December 1944. On Saturday evening we all shared a lovely dinner and drinks, rounded off with a light-hearted quiz, courtesy of William and Biddy. Sunday morning saw more cars meet us at the hotel before we left for a 30-minute cruise to Old Warden Aerodrome and The Shuttleworth Collection, which is one of the world's finest collections of airworthy vintage aircraft. The guided tours we took were highly informative and the range of aircraft, cars, motorcycles and other items on display is remarkable. The final tally of 46-48 Mopars was: 4x Plymouth Business Coupes 4x Plymouth Club Coupes 1x Plymouth 2-Door Sedan 1x Plymouth Convertible 1x DeSoto SP15 Club Coupe 1x Dodge 4-Door Sedan 1x Chrysler Club Coupe There was a nice selection of 'guest cars' too. Dean, Chris and I will announce details of next year's P-15 Picnic as soon as we can. Come and join us... Everyone's welcome! With thanks to Simon and Colin for the pictures...