230 Engine Measurements

[wayfarerstranger]

DOES ANYONE have a 230 with the 8 bolt crank out of a car and with the trans off ? i need a couple of measurements ... the distance between the fly wheel flange and the back of the engine also the size of the flange and the thickness of the flange . thanx for any help .. CHANCE

[Don Coatney]

Chance;

What are you trying to put together?

[wayfarerstranger]

TRYING to get a good motor in my 50 wayfarer conv. if u remember the motor thats in it runs great but i still have a compression problem , probably needs a valve job & new rings. anyway rather than spend money on that motor , i have a 1954 plymouth motor with only a couple 1000 miles on it turns out it is a 218 4 bolt crank TIM ADAMS thought it might work with a fluid drive if i drilled another 4 holes in the flange thats why i needed the measurements . i have a couple of other options ? try and install the 218 with standard ply. 3 speed but i will have to relocate the rear motor mount which will a little bit of work ,another option is to steal the motor out of my pink 52 wayfarer which is a truck motor 218 with fluid drive and sell the body. ....... just wanting to get some use out of this nice 54 engine thats just sitting here and i still have another nice 50 ply. motor & tranny i need to do something with, any input would be appreciated, CHANCE

[Plymouthy Adams]

Chance..I went to look see at my but just have no access to compare the 218 and the fulid 230 without disassembly...sorry..

[Don Coatney]

Drilling the 4 additional holes is a possibility. But they must be drilled preciesly. Were it me I would remove the crankshift and take it to a machine shop and have them drill it. They will also need a fluid drive 8 bolt flywheel as a pattern. But your best option might be to pull the drivetrain from the pink coupe and use it in the vert assuming the drivetrain is in good shape.

[wayfarerstranger]

i have a fluid drive fly wheel laying around here i even had another dodge 230 engine in need of repair and gave it away a couple of years back . Now i could that crank and the rods , but oh well. The motor in the 52 is in pretty good shape nice compression and oil pressure , but i would like to replace the clutch & pressure plate with new ones i already have .Just would have to find a new home for the 52 body as i`ve got enough to work on already,at one point i had thought about turning that 52 into a truck ?? got to get to revarnishing the old woody!! maybe i`ll try craigslist maybe someone near by is looking to build a hotrod or ratrod ..thanx for your input. CHANCE

[Plymouthy Adams]

I figured the drilling of the cranks would be an easy quick means IF the flanges are the same on each engine and rear seal areas has same clearance..as Clance has a 8 bolt flywheel off an engine to use as a template, drilling and tapping the flange was my suggestion and one very easily performed at home..

[Jim Saraceno]

These are the measurements from a 230 with a 4 bolt crank...

distance between the fly wheel flange and the back of the engine = 5/8"

size of the flange = 4 3/4" diameter

thickness of the flange = 3/8"

[55 Fargo]

Hi Chance,

sorry I have not been able to get any pics of the the clutch rod, rear motor mount changes to accomodate the non-fluid dirve clutch and 3 spd trans change on my Chrashler.

As I mentoned on the telephone on the weekend, this is not that big of a deal to swap out the fd and replace it with the dry clutch and 3spd trans.

Can you take some pics of the area, is the floor pan removed right now, if you can send some pics, maybe we can suggest something, if you decide to swap to dry clutch and 3 spd trans.

Getting rid of the Fd will give you more zip off the line, but in heavy city traffic, you don't get the FD benefit of not having to shift gears.

Sounds like drilling out the 4 bolt crank may be a more precise job than first anticipated.

Let us know what you plan to do.............Fred

[wayfarerstranger]

hello rock !!! the floor on the 50 dodge doesn`t come out ,,, and on the rear mount i think it is harder on the 50 than the 40`s models , on the 50 it is welded pretty good along the bottom so it would take some doing to get it out without the car being up in the air ,, and where it needs to be relocated to is a tight fit on the drivers side lots of stuff in the way , it would have to be trimmed up a little to fit , so if i could get the mount out and relocated in the proper place it would work i would need to use the shift rods & clutch rod from a ply . there shouldn`t be any other issues ??

[Niel Hoback]

I have an eight hole crank in a 230.

Flange diameter - 4 13/16".

thickness - 0.36"

distance from front of flange to back of block - 0.75"

I will send pictures if you want them.

[wayfarerstranger]

were the 1940`s dodges with fluid drive 218`s ??? and also have an 8 bolt crank ? thanx for all the help !!

[wayfarerstranger]

Yea If Ya Got Some Send Them On ,, Thanx

[Niel Hoback]

I'll get some tomorrow, the engine is on a stand.

I'm still chasing Bon ami. Wal-mart, K-mart, drugstore, nothing yet.

[greg g]

Got my last two containers at the local grocery store in the soap aisle. If that fails,

http://www.nextag.com/bon-ami-cleaning-powder/search-html

by the way BMW suggest using Bon Ami to clean the environmental sludge of the widshield as a correction for skipping and noisey windshield wipers.

[Niel Hoback]

I don't know what good these are, but here ya go.