A favor for George Asche

[blueskies]

Pete;

Not sure what you are looking for. Let me know and I will shoot some pictures.

I thought I remembered a pic of your carbs without the air cleaners on them, and that the top of the carbs had a sort of squarish opening.

The opening on my carbs is a diamond shape which made sychronizing the carbs a bit more difficult with my synchro guage...

I made an adapter-

Pete

[Normspeed]

Strange thing Pete, I get the red x on your photo but if I right click and choose show picture, it appears. Then after that, no red x for that post.

[blueskies]

Strange thing Pete, I get the red x on your photo but if I right click and choose show picture, it appears. Then after that, no red x for that post.

dammit, I'm stumped with the pics and why they aren't showing up sometimes...

Pete

[Don Coatney]

Pete;

Same red X and resolved same as Normspeed.

Follow this link and post the picture in question.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/Carb%20stuff/

[Merle Coggins]

Your pics are showing find for me today, Pete. I've had that problem earlier in the week, but today's fine.

Merle

[blueskies]

Pete;

Same red X and resolved same as Normspeed.

dunno about the red x deal... time to call Network Solutions, my host, and find out whats up.

Here's the pic I was thinking of...

Pete

[Norm's Coupe]

I don't know why you guys are getting a red x for pictures. I have had a few problems with pictures not showing up at all, or getting a red x a few times on here. Then if I hit the "Reload" button the pictures usually come up. I'm no computer guru, but I think that might be happening sometimes if you time out while trying to load a thread with a lot of large pictures in it.

[Norm's Coupe]

Here are the Carter-Webber carburetors I will install someday. I have them mocked up on my log manifold. Also pictured is the bottom for a comparsion with the B&B's.

Don, I am curious to know just how many MPG you get on your log. Also how fast will that log run with those carbs. on it and are the saw blades used to cut the wind resistance?

[greg g]

Apparently Don is well prepared for ripping through traffic and crosscutting the parking lot.

[Allan Faust]

I think the red x's are probably due to backbone issues or routing issues... in general, the line between the sites is not necessarily a straight line (hence web) and when one highway is down or blocked... red x... refresh, and the new highway connection is active, voila, picture.... just like an accident on the highway... might take a bit, but there may be a turnoff you can take to avoid the stoppage....

Allan

[Allan Faust]

Apparently Don is well prepared for ripping through traffic and crosscutting the parking lot.

Or maybe tearing across Norm's driveway???

[Don Coatney]

Don' date=' I am curious to know just how many MPG you get on your log. Also how fast will that log run with those carbs. on it and are the saw blades used to cut the wind resistance?[/quote']

Not sure norm. I keep that information in my mileage log not my log manifold:cool:

[Jim Shepard]

Jim, is your 230 the regular short block 230 like the Dodge and later Plymouths? I think that triple is for the big block Chrysler types.

With multi carbs on a street flathead 6, you sorta need to decide where you want to go...the traditional like Ball & Ball (stock type) carbs or the newer stuff like Webers. Personally I run the B&B carbs on my 218 but some day I hope to see what Pete (Blueskies) 230 is like with the Holley Webers. Pete has a great website about his build, including those cool carbs:

http://www.50plymouth.com/

It's out of a '55 ('C' Series) one ton truck. I'm no expert but, doesn't all this carburation stuff boil down cfm's? I mean, if I have a motor that will handle a total of 600 cfm, does it really matter whether it's from one 600 cfm four barrel or three 200 cfm carburators, everything else being equal?

I'm leaning toward three single barrel B&B's because I like the idea of them squirting fuel directly into the intake ports, rather than traversing down some runners to get there. Seems like that would be the most efficient setup.

[timkingsbury]

Would A & K Racing be Ache and Kingsbury?

Pete

Yes Pete - AoK would be Asche & Kingsbury. I have decided to log back on to the forum at the request of a member. I have no interest in fighting. I have read all the posts and will say this.

Those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw rocks. When a guy is selling a truck, then it turns out he is selling it for someone else, and then finds out I have told someone else I am out, if you want to deal with him or want me to buy it when I am near by let me know and gets all bent out of shape, what can I saw. What I do know is no one can come forward and swear on a bible that I owed them money in the last 20 years, so for someone to try and add in more crap to try and add credibility to their story they are not worth my time.

You will also notice my handle is my name. Not some disquise. You can log on to ebay and look for the user timkingsbury and just see what my rating is.

You can log on to twitter and look for user timkingsbury, again the real guy not some fictional character hiding behind some handle.

Pete of course I am not referring to you as in your many many posts I have heard and seen nothing negative. In fact it was your reputation that brought me to answer. What I didnt realize until when my registration was approved that your post was several years old.

Tim Kingsbury

[timkingsbury]

Pete' date=' I'm pretty sure Don is right too. A few years ago I had a real nice extra Fulton Sunvisor I picked up and put up for sale. Kingsbury bought and paid for it and had me ship it to George. So, the two are connected somehow, even though Kingsbury is in Canada.[/quote']

I will save everyone the time and speculation. George Asche Jr was born a few days before my father Eddy Kingsbury so we are not of similar age obviously. I believe if you were talk to George and you asked him who Tim Kingsbury was, he would likely reply "that is my 3rd son" and did so in front of my Dad many times. So we are definately connected in many ways.

If you dropped by his place today you would see my 1949 plymouth business coupe that was my aunts who bought it new. It is a Canadian car, so it had a big block (25 1/2") from the factory. George and my brother (his sons Rob and George) are well lets call it - "tuning it up". Which of course is a bit of an understatement.

In fact if you want to see George, and Rob in action with me in the background behind the camera (phone) here is a youtube video, which

might illustrate why the AoK triple was created, and may just serve as evidence to another previous attack on me.

After a bit of tuning, here would be the results, from some time ago.

Sorry its is not really a p15-d24 as the engine is a 1952 chrysler 265 or that is what it started its life as.

I think we will call this AoK stage 1. Yes there is a stage 2 and a stage 3 to the flathead.

Tim

ps: my email address is still fargopickupking@yahoo.com and I understand if the administrator wishes to take down my posts. If they do they do, and I will then say goodbye again.

[Frank Elder]

You can stop worrying about Norm's coupe...he passed away several years ago....although if anyone could come back from the dead to restate his opinion, that would be our Norm.:D

[greg g]

Well it is has certainly been a while since we have heard from you Tim. So long that a lot of water has gone under the bridge. And a lot of changes have occured in the interim. Couple folks passed away, couple others sold thier mopars and have moved along to other projects and forums, a couple have had disagreements and pulled into thier shells, and whether they still check in and read they seem never to contribute. I for one miss those contributions. I remember yours as being helpful, enlightening and entertaining. And for some one with a non engineering background easy to understand conceptually. I certainly welcome you back as a participant, and would like to hear more about your slightly modified flathead mopar powered dragster. Looks and sounds interesting in the youtube clip. Its is also nice to see that George is up, around and looking hale and hearty, as I understand he had a patch of less than good health a while back.

There are quite a few of the olde fahrts still aboard and quite a few new and enthusiastic folks working at rescuing older Mopars. I hope you will stick around and continue to add your insight to this forum.

[timkingsbury]

You can stop worrying about Norm's coupe...he passed away several years ago....although if anyone could come back from the dead to restate his opinion, that would be our Norm.:D

Wow, that is too bad. Seems a lot of the great mopar people have gotten the checkered flag. My Dad passed away now almost 3 years ago. My buddy David English just before my Dad, and maybe also know to others on the forum Lanny Weddel (frumpy) and John Burke have all left us. So from Hemi Powers little red express to the flathead chrysler powered model T we/I have lost a lot of those guys.

My Dad obviously being my biggest loss. He and George Asche are less than a week apart. Funny thing is for years they thought my dad was the older of the two then at a Chrysler Carlisle drivers liscences came out and it turned out George was the older of the two. By a few days, but both of them had a lot of fun with that.

Norm, I didnt have a lot of dealings with. I think it was actually more than 1 though but I am not 100% sure. I do know I have a pretty awesome sunvisor from him.

Oh well, guess we are all getting old around my world.

[timkingsbury]

Well it is has certainly been a while since we have heard from you Tim. So long that a lot of water has gone under the bridge. And a lot of changes have occured in the interim. Couple folks passed away, couple others sold thier mopars and have moved along to other projects and forums, a couple have had disagreements and pulled into thier shells, and whether they still check in and read they seem never to contribute. I for one miss those contributions. I remember yours as being helpful, enlightening and entertaining. And for some one with a non engineering background easy to understand conceptually. I certainly welcome you back as a participant, and would like to hear more about your slightly modified flathead mopar powered dragster. Looks and sounds interesting in the youtube clip. Its is also nice to see that George is up, around and looking hale and hearty, as I understand he had a patch of less than good health a while back.

There are quite a few of the olde fahrts still aboard and quite a few new and enthusiastic folks working at rescuing older Mopars. I hope you will stick around and continue to add your insight to this forum.

Thanks for the kind words. Truth is, I lost a bet (which I got suckered into it seems) and I was forced to reinlist and make a post. I have now paid my debt ! (or the bet).

On my buddy George, yes, he did and sort of still is. My Dad being sick really effected George. You would think the two were seperated at birth some how if you ever saw the two of them together. Dad died and I hate to get into politics, but politics kept George from not attending Dad's funeral. He didnt have a passport and while we could get him into Canada, he couldnt get back into the states without one.

I am not saying Dad dieing was necessarily directly related, but it was not long after and I mean less than a week, George was ill, then was in the hospital and has had a bunch of issues.

But he is a tough old bird.. as was my Dad.. and a he has a lot of projects

still on his plate. I am not sure I will live to see all of them done, but I pray daily he is alive to see them all completed.

Before Dad passed away we finished the AoK triple, and got the engine into

the read engine dragster. sadly Dad never heard it run. We have a AoK dual carb manifold in the works for the Us small block, but one of the key people

to that project is sort of missing in action, so I cant make too many promises.

We have completed the design, and preliminary fabrication for a 1 off, (maybe a 5 off) intake for a flathead chrysler 6 cylinder that then bolts on

a 671 blower and some pretty fancy fuel injection. That may be a while off

until it rises to the top of the priority list to go into full production (aka casting).

We also have completed a nice more modern (aka the 60's) clutch and pressure plate project which has the exact poundage at the ultra rare 1956 plymouth pressure plate, but has many more springs for super nice distribution of the pressure. I think we go 10 or 20 of those made recently.

And we are working on reproducing the 265 connecting rods, so they will work on the 265 cranks, but are longer. Since we cant even find decent 265 rods, this is a reproduction and improvement project which merrys up with

what we already have in Venolia Top Fuel Racing forged racing pistons with plasma moly rings which is what is in our read engine dragster. The new rods will actually see the pins in the pistons raised to compensate for the length.

Lets see.. think those are most of the things we have on the go. Which means, I am not sure how much time I have for the forum to be honest.. even if I was wanted.

What I do know is George and my Dad taught me one valueable lesson.. Life is too short for B.S.. So I dont mind a good discussion or arguement, but

start into full attack mode and live is too short. I can tell you when I get the checkered flag, I am quite comfortable with what I have an havent done on this earth. And as much as I am very much into technology, its been a long long time since I played hockey when if a guy wanted to get in my grill (as they call it) I was happy to drop the gloves and settle the dispute.

Well I am a heck of a lot older, and I like to think a tiny bit wiser, but still

the internet and forums where people can hide under handles etc, can be a cruel world sometimes, and I just dont have time for the aggrevation.

It is funny though, I remember the day I said, that is it, I am logging on for the last time and I dont want to go into the details. But I put my email address to the post. Cant remember if I put my phone number up or not.

Since that day though, I have heard from one heck of a lot of people who

got my email from the forum.

And I am sure there were guys slagging me, and diving on with tales of fiction when I left as I was no longer around to dispute it. It is nice to know there were guys like Norm who obviously stood up for a guy he really didnt know very well.

But one thing that always remains, if I do get wind of someone with a tale tail

against either of my Dads.. George Asche or Eddy Kingsbury, get ready for

a war.. and while I am less likely to "drop the gloves" physically, I might surprise more than the odd person, either verbally or phyisically if it came to that.

As they say there is no replacement for displacement. It works with mopars

(217 ci small blocks vs 265 ci big blocks) and well at something over 6' and something over 250 lbs, I definately have displacement.. lol... And the

rest of the story.. at 16 I was exactly the same height I am now, and weighed in at 222lbs, so well I have definately ballooned like a lot, I had a pretty large displacement when I was 16 and really was a pretty decent athlete.. or so they tell me.. lol

So there you have it.. yes I can still talk your ear off.. You can still

get me at fargopickupking@yahoo.com directly as well.

Tim

[Labrauer]

You know I don't care what is said about George. I know that he has on more than one occasion has helped me on parts and knowlege on these old Plymouths. As far as I am concerned he is a jam up guy that is there to inform people about old cars and there to answer any question that you have. I don't think we as fourm members can get any where if it wasn't for the older generation helping us out. I had an uncle that breath nothing but mopars. Heck he even thought it was a sin to buy anything but a mopar product. He has tought me many things and I wish he was still on this earth to see and give me a hand but he is not so I talk to people and ask questions on this fourm to fulfill my knowledge. If some one has a problem with some one I think it should be discussed their dealings but not go on and on. You know every one is not perfect and every one makes a mistake every once in a while. We live by our mistakes and go on from there.