Timing chain or contact in central Cali....

[BudH]

Hi all new poster here. We are in Merced area over xmas helping father in law change a front seal and timing chain is SHOT! Anyone know of a contact that might have one? Only ones we can find online seem to be on east coast and we only have a couple days.... Thanks and merry Christmas!

[TodFitch]

I am surprised that I no longer see this timing chain on the NAPA website. Rock Auto shows it as part of a kit which appears to also include the gears. Egge Machine in SoCal shows it on their website at https://egge.com/product/timing-chain-243/ but I don’t know how fast they can ship it.

[LazyK]

Chain and gears should always be changed as a set. IMO

[BudH]

1 hour ago, LazyK said:

Chain and gears should always be changed as a set. IMO

We would prefer to if we can appreciate the help so far...

[FarmerJon]

1 hour ago, TodFitch said:

I am surprised that I no longer see this timing chain on the NAPA website. Rock Auto shows it as part of a kit which appears to also include the gears. Egge Machine in SoCal shows it on their website at https://egge.com/product/timing-chain-243/ but I don’t know how fast they can ship it.

I dont see the set on rock auto, but I see just chains, If 251 chains are the same. 

[BudH]

2 hours ago, TodFitch said:

I am surprised that I no longer see this timing chain on the NAPA website. Rock Auto shows it as part of a kit which appears to also include the gears. Egge Machine in SoCal shows it on their website at https://egge.com/product/timing-chain-243/ but I don’t know how fast they can ship it.

Where are you finding this on Rockauto? Doesn't show up for me..

[Sniper]

They all use the same timing set, I ordered it from Autozone, they had the best price. SA Gear 73111

 

 

[TodFitch]

1 hour ago, BudH said:

Where are you finding this on Rockauto? Doesn't show up for me..

Maybe I cheated, I started at my own website.

 

I went to my parts cross reference at https://www.ply33.com/Parts/numeric and searched for "timing" which gave me the 1933 Plymouth part number. Which fits for 1933-54. But that listing showed that it was superseded by a newer Chrysler part number of 1075001. So I searched on Rock Auto for that newer Chrysler part number and got a couple of hits. I picked the "kit" version that showed as being in stock.

 

It looks like it is the same SA Gear 73111 part number as @Sniper gave above.

 

Now that you have a modern part number you can search a bunch of regular auto supply stores. For example, it is available at O’Reilly Auto.

 

But maybe you don’t need or want the full kit, just the chain. Getting back to Rock Auto they have information about their out of stock chain only. Based on the Rock Auto part number mapping into a SA Gear part number of 73111 and looking at the Rock Auto chain only part number we can look up C401 on the SA Gear vendor filtered search at O’Reilly Auto and find what looks like the correct chain.

 

I don’t know what auto supplies are near your father-in-law or which ones you prefer to send your business to, but it seems you can probably get the chain locally. I have pretty good luck with maintenance items getting delivered to my local store within a day. I don’t know if that will hold for this less commonly purchased part but it would not surprise me if it was pretty quick.

[BudH]

59 minutes ago, Sniper said:

They all use the same timing set, I ordered it from Autozone, they had the best price. SA Gear 73111

 

 

Thanks u guys are awesome, anyone have the number for a correct speedy sleeve?

[TodFitch]

2 minutes ago, BudH said:

Thanks u guys are awesome, anyone have the number for a correct speedy sleeve?

No clue on that one. Got a set of calipers you can measure the offending shaft with? You should be able to look up speedy sleeve sizes based on that.

[BudH]

16 minutes ago, TodFitch said:

Maybe I cheated, I started at my own website.

 

I went to my parts cross reference at https://www.ply33.com/Parts/numeric and searched for "timing" which gave me the 1933 Plymouth part number. Which fits for 1933-54. But that listing showed that it was superseded by a newer Chrysler part number of 1075001. So I searched on Rock Auto for that newer Chrysler part number and got a couple of hits. I picked the "kit" version that showed as being in stock.

 

It looks like it is the same SA Gear 73111 part number as @Sniper gave above.

 

Now that you have a modern part number you can search a bunch of regular auto supply stores. For example, it is available at O’Reilly Auto.

 

But maybe you don’t need or want the full kit, just the chain. Getting back to Rock Auto they have information about their out of stock chain only. Based on the Rock Auto part number mapping into a SA Gear part number of 73111 and looking at the Rock Auto chain only part number we can look up C401 on the SA Gear vendor filtered search at O’Reilly Auto and find what looks like the correct chain.

 

I don’t know what auto supplies are near your father-in-law or which ones you prefer to send your business to, but it seems you can probably get the chain locally. I have pretty good luck with maintenance items getting delivered to my local store within a day. I don’t know if that will hold for this less commonly purchased part but it would not surprise me if it was pretty quick.

I have a firstcall account at Oreilly and that part is not in their network right now. Autozone will not even pull it up.

 

Appreciate your help.

[Sniper]

I don't know what to say I got the receipt from AutoZone RockAuto does List It as available

[FarmerJon]

7 hours ago, BudH said:

Thanks u guys are awesome, anyone have the number for a correct speedy sleeve?

Rock Auto lists it as SKF 99226.

[BudH]

Thanks for the help guys. With the part numbers from here we were able to track one down in a warehouse in Oakland and they did us a favor and let us come pick one up. Didn't put a speedy sleeve on but may have to in the future. Hope everyone is enjoying the holidays. Plymouth is on the road again....

[LazyK]

Thanks for the update. Nice when members can help.

[Matt Wilson]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:02 PM, Sniper said:

They all use the same timing set, I ordered it from Autozone, they had the best price. SA Gear 73111

 

 

Sounds like the original poster got his situation addressed, but just for everyone's awareness, some ranges of year models used a chain and sprocket set that were 1/2" thick, while other year model ranges used 1" thick parts.  I remember Vintage Power Wagons bringing this up to me when I ordered parts from them several years ago.

 

And if I recall correctly, I believe the timing cover depth was also different to accommodate these different chain and sprocket thicknesses.

 

VPW encouraged me to get the thicker parts, as they are more durable (makes sense), and that was fine for me, since that was what came off my engine to begin with.