Bob Riding Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 I'm progressing slowly but steadily with my '51 Suburban build. I'm using a rebuilt 230 from a '56 Suburban, including the '56 bell-housing, flywheel (new ring gear) refurbished transmission, clutch, pressure plate, and new throwout and pilot bearings. The '56 came with hanging pedals, mounted under the dash, while the '51 has a floor mount setup. I could go either way as I have both sets of pedals and linkages but I'm wondering if the clutch fork in the '56 bell-housing is in a different position where it would preclude me from running a floor mount system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Riding Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 After further reading, it seems there's a split on the feel and function of one vs. the other... Reddit Thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 there was a good reason the industry moved to these....my preference is swinging pedal but only with drivetrain upgrades is it worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Riding Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 I'm going to assume, since Mother Chrysler tended to try to continue to use older parts, that I should be able to use the '56 bellhousing clutchfolk configuration with '51 pedals. My Chrysler 1950-1965 Interchange Manual doesn't show parts that small to be able to say for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 I honestly could not say one way or the other...newest of this era car for me is a 54 and it is a factory automatic....then I jump to 1962 factory big block cars. These are also automatics. Once will be slated for a later model Magnum and 5 speed on the floor...I will use the factory donor pedal column and collapsing steering link. Not having either in view, I would only see a conflict at the z-bar connection where you will need to maybe modify the linkage for the clutch, I would think the shifter and such as is should play forward. But again this is just happy thinking maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 The early 50's bell housings often had extra mounting areas for the various linkages and springs, etc. that the later 50's May not have? Compare the bell housings on the lower driver side for these changes and see if any major changes were made that would be a lot of work to overcome. I never have worked with the later style so I am just giving my best? thoughts. ? DJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Do you not have the 51 bell housing to make it a sure fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Riding Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Young Ed said: Do you not have the 51 bell housing to make it a sure fit? I do, but it's in my parts car. I was hoping to not have to pull it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 What is the old saying- Pay me now or pay me later? Saving time and effort now may cost you much more later, your choice for sure. At least you do your own work, I think! Jus Sayin". DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Riding Posted July 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, DJ194950 said: What is the old saying- Pay me now or pay me later? Saving time and effort now may cost you much more later, your choice for sure. At least you do your own work, I think! Jus Sayin". DJ I agree, and I do most of my own work. I need help with upholstery, stainless polishing, and of course, chrome, but try to tackle most anything else (with Forum Members help)! I was hoping some smart member would know the answer, but failing that, I will be diving into the parts wagon! BTW, Do you know of a good chrome shop here in central CA? It looks like Meclecs Metal Finishing isn't doing Chrome anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Riding said: I do, but it's in my parts car. I was hoping to not have to pull it Maybe a quick study will show it's the same or similar enough. Did the 56 use the same rear mounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Riding Posted July 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 55 minutes ago, Young Ed said: Maybe a quick study will show it's the same or similar enough. Did the 56 use the same rear mounts? Yes. I believe they were the same through to the end of production in 1959. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution 9 foot box Posted July 11, 2023 Solution Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 The nice thing about swinging pedals is that you can put a master cylinder, and even a vacuum booster, on the firewall. The clutch adjustment is simplified by the elimination of a clutch overcenter spring adjustment. Your clutch release arm in the picture looks longer than a 54 Savoy that I have on a pallet. If you’re not concerned with originality, and you can mount the swinging pedals as firmly as they are in the 56 parts car, I think I would update the pedal arrangement. You have all the parts, you might have to fabricate a pivot point for the clutch on the frame to engine mount. Rick D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Bob Riding said: BTW, Do you know of a good chrome shop here in central CA? It looks like Meclecs Metal Finishing isn't doing Chrome anymore. yellowpages.com/lodi-ca/mip/san-joaquin-chrome-inc-8446435 Only place that I have some first class experience with in Lodi, Ca. Not cheap, but not way out there either, at least about 4 years ago that was true. Did some good work for two of my friends car chrome. A 47 Plymouth and a 56 Chev. Nothing in the Modesto area that is high quality type work. DJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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