Tulsarama: Tarnished Gold to Shine Again

[knuckleharley]

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/Default.aspx?tabid=520&articleid=7187&articlemid=1519#1519Articles

Tulsarama: Miss Belvedere to Shine Once Again

A fter spending nearly 50 years quietly rusting beneath the Tulsa County Courthouse lawn, the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere affectionately known as “Miss Belvedere,” may soon be returned to her former glory.

According to the Ultra One Corporation Web site, the company, which developed the Safest Rust Remover products has been enlisted to chemically de-rust and preserve what has become one of the world’s most famous “finned” Mopars in the world.

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Robert Carney of Frederick, MD, nephew of the car’s apparent winner, is expected to take possession of the car following an official presentation ceremony scheduled for Sept. 14 in Tulsa.

Carney told the Tulsa World newspaper last week that an agreement has been worked out with the Ultra One Corp. to stabilize the 50-year-old automobile, once ownership has been confirmed.

"Once we get it derusted, we think it'll run," Carney told the Tulsa newspaper. "We really think it will."

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Ultra One Corp. spokesman Dwight Foster said he expects it will take about 6 months to complete the de-rusting process of the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere along with all the other artifacts that were placed in the trunk such as the case of Schlitz beer cans and other items.

Ultra One recently launched a Web site, www.missbelvedere.com , that will document the Belvedere's cleaning process.

According to Carney, the rust needs to be neutralized to preserve the Belvedere, which apparently spent a good portion of the past half-century as much underwater as underground.

"We're not going to take it apart and try to restore it," he said.

"Ideally, what we'd like to see is that when it's in pretty good shape, the car would go back to Tulsa for another unveiling," Carney said.

Go to the link above for the full story with photos. It seems like some company in the rust removal business is going to make a PR project out of the buried Plymouth. If their stuff can save that one,I'm going to be first in line to buy some of it!

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Tulsarama: Miss Belvedere to Shine Once Again

A fter spending nearly 50 years quietly rusting beneath the Tulsa County Courthouse lawn, the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere affectionately known as “Miss Belvedere,” may soon be returned to her former glory.

According to the Ultra One Corporation Web site, the company, which developed the Safest Rust Remover products has been enlisted to chemically de-rust and preserve what has become one of the world’s most famous “finned” Mopars in the world.

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Robert Carney of Frederick, MD, nephew of the car’s apparent winner, is expected to take possession of the car following an official presentation ceremony scheduled for Sept. 14 in Tulsa.

Carney told the Tulsa World newspaper last week that an agreement has been worked out with the Ultra One Corp. to stabilize the 50-year-old automobile, once ownership has been confirmed.

"Once we get it derusted, we think it'll run," Carney told the Tulsa newspaper. "We really think it will."

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Ultra One Corp. spokesman Dwight Foster said he expects it will take about 6 months to complete the de-rusting process of the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere along with all the other artifacts that were placed in the trunk such as the case of Schlitz beer cans and other items.

Ultra One recently launched a Web site, www.missbelvedere.com , that will document the Belvedere's cleaning process.

According to Carney, the rust needs to be neutralized to preserve the Belvedere, which apparently spent a good portion of the past half-century as much underwater as underground.

"We're not going to take it apart and try to restore it," he said.

"Ideally, what we'd like to see is that when it's in pretty good shape, the car would go back to Tulsa for another unveiling," Carney said.

[Plymouthy Adams]

The de-rust company may get good advertizing..hopefully in exchange the owner to be is getting his back scratched at the same time..even at that, the interior of the car...looks like a whole lot of money (symbolic or otherwise)

[PatS....]

That particular engine will need alot more than a de-rusting to run.

Why does it have to run?

Stabilize it and show it as is.

[builtfercomfort]

>>That particular engine will need alot more than a de-rusting to run

Naw, no problem. Just a little de-rusting is all that is needed. May need to disassemble it first. I hear hot tanks are good for de-rusting. Yeah, and may need to bore out the cylinders a bit to remove the rest of the rust. And the bearing area may have rusted a bit, so it might need to be cleaned up. And the crankshaft may have a tiny bit of rust here and there so it may need some machining.

But really, it's just part of the de-rusting process. Has nothing to do with a complete, top-to-bottom rebuild. All depends on how you define things, right?

[BobT-47P15]

I dunno......what Should be done with the old girl?

If left unattended, will the rust get worse?

If partially de-rusted, will it detract from the historical value of the car?

Why do they think it should run???? Why does it really matter???

I think at this point, they should just leave it alone, leave it as-is, and sell it to the guy with the 1957 model car museum for display.

It represents the reality of the situation.....they thought they had their

bases covered in the burial, using their best technology of the day, but

it did not prove good enough. Nothing can change the outcome....so why

mess with it??

Might prove to be good advertising for the de-rusting company, or it

might fall apart right before their eyes.

[Norm's Coupe]

Sounds to me that neither the owner of the 57 or the people that run Ultra One has any experience with restoring old cars. Sounds like they are having "Pipe Dreams" and "Sugar Plum Fairy's" dancing in their heads if they think that car can be restored and the original engine rebuilt like new. The buildup of rust is probably the only thing that's holding that car together.

The new owner should take the $200,000 and run, before the people at the 57 museum comes to their senses and withdraws their offer. Then the new owner could buy at least 5 or 6 nice fully restored 57 Plymouth Fury's just like it.

[PatS....]

I think they should have put her back in the hole, filled it up and put a headstone on it. It really looks like a graverobbing gone horribly bad.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I wonder if that is an advertisement on the side of that lift...???

For the person with a standard height ceiling, these could be a very workable solution to some repairs...

[blueskies]

This is what the metal is going to look like after being dipped in the tank of rust-B-gone...

You will be able to see all the way through from the cancer bugs that have been eating away at the car for 5 decades. At least when they get 'er running, they won't have to worry about refurbishing the AC system, it will have the much sough-after FLOW THROUGH cooling system.

Pete

[builtfercomfort]

Flow-thru cooling, and Flintstone braking too!

[Don Coatney]

This is what the metal is going to look like after being dipped in the tank of rust-B-gone...

You will be able to see all the way through from the cancer bugs that have been eating away at the car for 5 decades. At least when they get 'er running, they won't have to worry about refurbishing the AC system, it will have the much sough-after FLOW THROUGH cooling system.

Pete

Pete;

Is that your lace doiley? For some reason everytime I say the word doiley I laugh:D Who invented the word doiley?

[carol craig]

Doyleys

Now means a small cloth used to cover dessert plates; but originally it had a much wider meaning. Thus Dryden speaks of “doyley petticoats;” and Steele, in No. 102 of the Tatler, speaks of his “doiley suit.” The Doyleys were linen-drapers, No. 346, east corner of Upper Wellington Street, Strand, from the time of Queen Anne to the year 1850.

Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894

Also used on back of furniture where men who used pomade on their hair rested there heads that left a stain. All sounds too french to me. Frank made me do this.

[builtfercomfort]

I think you are confusing doily with antimacassar.

An antimacassar is a small cloth placed over the backs or arms of chairs, or the head or cushions of a sofa, to prevent soiling of the permanent fabric. (Macassar oil was scented hair oil, hence anti-macassar)

The word doily is currently just used as an ornamental lace or paper-lace pad under plates, but used to be that type of fabric, wherever it was used (patterned lace). So the picture of the lace would now be called patterned lace but in former times, doily (after Doiley, a 17th century London draper).

Sure, this is on topic :-)

[Plymouthy Adams]

that is just too scary knowing you know that....!!! I grew up calling any decorative or hand crocheted protectors a doiley..my grandmother spend her winters doing this kind of work...and the hand embroarded pillow cases and table runners...this era has long slipped by...very few people are SHUT-IN due to weather these days so that pastime is no more.

[builtfercomfort]

My mom had a thin old humor book called 'And So's Your Antimacassar', so I just sort of grew up knowing this. (Not very funny actually, topical humor from about 1900.)

[Guest NHRAdragRACER]

I have experience with this product and it does work as advertised.

Getting Miss Belvedere would have to one of the all time best test for this product.

Looks like Safest Rust Remover is going to get MISS BELVEDRE project. Can't wait to see the results.

Here’s an update on Miss Belvedere - you remember, the 1957 Plymouth that was sealed up in a not-so-waterproof time capsule in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and exhumed amid great hoopla in June. It seems that the car is headed to Hackettstown, New Jersey, the home of Ultra One Corporation, manufacturers of a product called Safest Rust Remover.

Ultra One says in a press release that it has reached an agreement with Robert Carney, the nephew of the car’s apparent winner, to have the Belvedere chemically derusted and preserved with their proprietary Safest Rust Remover process. Dwight Foster, a representative of Ultra One, expects the rust removal process to take about six months. Carney, of Frederick, Maryland, is the nephew of 93-year-old Catherine Humbertson Johnson, the oldest sister of Raymond Humbertson, who submitted the apparent winning entry in Tulsa’s 1957 contest. He is to take possession of the car in a September 14 ceremony.

[Normspeed]

The new issue of Hot Rod magazine has an article about the car. Haven't read my issue yet.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I'd donate 10.00 toward another hole to bury it in....

Speaking of which....if the guy who got the record breaking steroid ball is subject to paying a tax on its value though it never has changed hands...why is this car at the record price offered not also being hounded by the tax collectors...

How can you tax a potential to earn money...most women are equipted to be high dollar prostitutes but are they being taxed...throw me a bone here..I just don't get it...its like the guy who says he lost 10,000.00 in the stock market..NO..he failed to realized his max potential but he still sold for a profit..just not what he could have had..so...as he was active in the stock market..the same principle applies here..tax him for his stupidity for not getting out when he could realize max dollar...next thing you know, your old car here will be taxed at the rate of the trailer queen..some states do this...and it is based on the average value..of course if yours is a junker..well it still applies at the same collector rate..I know, we were under this for some time in SC...it was finially repealed..that is why collector is not registered as the collector guide lists it..glad we had the option on this model...

[toddbracik]

Only on this site would you see a conversation like this and its good to be here. I'm ready to crack open a beer but that wouldn't look so good here at work. As for the Belvedere, I think it looks fine the way it is and they should show it as it is. Even if they use this stuff to stop the oxidation process, pitted metal is pitted metal and even if they do get a spark, there is going to be a lot of white smoke. And whats with the informercials and spam all of a sudden? Todd B.

[Arthur1947]

Since you guys mentioned doily and antimacassar I thought I'd throw this in. Anyone guess what this is? If you find it at a flea market buy it, for it makes a great white elephant

[Young Ed]

Looks like decorative cover for a spare roll of TP

[Plymouthy Adams]

oh yeah...the old TP cover...egad I had hoped never to see one of these again....

[Don Coatney]

oh yeah...the old TP cover...egad I had hoped never to see one of these again....

What is TP??? Real Tennessee men use cobs.

[Plymouthy Adams]

why I stay out of Tennessee as much as possible...real class as we all know is a Sears catalog...duh...!!

[Arthur1947]

A toilet paper "Cozy" is the correct name. I don't know what's better, the tp cozy or a Spanish dubbed version of The Boy in the Plastic Bubble featuring John Travolta.