bluefoxamazone Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 hi! I came up with the "bright" idea to change some of the bulbs in my car to LED. I have found LED lamps based on the BAY15D socket that work well. The light is very bright and white at almost no power consumption. BUT.... the flasher relay does not want to play my game.... It sometime flashes, it sometime does nothing.... So I am looking for a suitable flasher relay on 6V (pos grnd) for LED lamps (low Amps). Is there anybody with a suggestion or experiences on this matter? thanks!!! Quote
chopt50wgn Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 The flasher in the fuse box must be changed to a LED flasher. I have 12V's and they do make them for that system, but not sure if they have one for 6V. Check with companies like Ron Francis, Painless, American autowire and the like to see if they carry one. Quote
bluefoxamazone Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Posted July 16, 2015 so far I have not found a load free relay for 6Volt... Thanks for your input! Quote
Jerry Roberts Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 You might put an incandesant bulb in the circuit somewhere out of sight . that will draw enough current to make your old flasher work . 1 Quote
mopar_earl Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 You can add a resistor to the circuit that equals to 2 of the orginal bulbs to get it to flash and flash as the same rate. Remember, that resistor will get hot so mount it accordingly. Earl Quote
fstfish66 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 as stated find a hiding spot in the trunk,,or make a hanger and pick up a bulb socket,,,splice it in line hang it so it wont bang against some thing and break,, the bulb will give you the load your stock flasher needs,, you could check with todd at cool-leds.com,, he has made custom led,s for me in the past may have a flasher,, Quote
mopar_earl Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 I saw a 6v electronic flasher on the net the other day. That should flash the same rate no matter what the load is. Was probably on ebay. Earl Quote
bluefoxamazone Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Posted August 17, 2015 hey! finding a 6 volt led flasher relay seems no problem. But the fact of positive grounding.... I think I go for the solution with the resistor or the bulb... Quote
mopar_earl Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 hey! finding a 6 volt led flasher relay seems no problem. But the fact of positive grounding.... I think I go for the solution with the resistor or the bulb... I thought u saw a 6v positive ground flasher. I will see if I can find it again. Earl Quote
meadowbrook Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Seems to me if you have to add a bulb to the circuit then you lost the purpose of using an LED in the first place... 1 Quote
mopar_earl Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Seems to me if you have to add a bulb to the circuit then you lost the purpose of using an LED in the first place... Adding leds on a antique car is not to lower energy useage but to have brighter lights for safety. Earl 1 Quote
mopar_earl Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I did a quick search. I didn't find the flasher I saw. I will keep looking. Earl Quote
Niel Hoback Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Well, not really. The purpose of LED lights to get brighter lights. They will still be bright even if you splice an incandescent bulb in the circuit somewhere, not nessecarily so it shows anywhere. Quote
meadowbrook Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Ok, I was under the impression incandescent still is brighter than LED, at least for 12 V, maybe not for 6V. Quote
mopar_earl Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Ok, I was under the impression incandescent still is brighter than LED, at least for 12 V, maybe not for 6V. LEDs are always brighter and faster. Unless you buy some dirt cheap ones. Thought I have seen plenty of the dirt cheap ones blind the heck out of me lol Earl Quote
TodFitch Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Ok, I was under the impression incandescent still is brighter than LED, at least for 12 V, maybe not for 6V. Lumens (light output) per watt (power in) is much higher for LEDs than incandescent. However LEDs can be very directional in their light output and the spectrum emitted can be an issue. So sometimes an incandescent bulb may be a better choice, at least at the moment. LEDs lights are under rapid development and color rendering (emitted light spectrum) is getting better all the time and new ways are being developed to make the light intensity more uniform so the number of applications where incandescents are better than LEDs is shrinking all the time. Typical high power LEDs actually need about 3v DC to operate, so anything that is developed for a 12v system could, in theory, be applied to a 6v system. The issue there being lack of volume to induce a manufacturer to make a product. Quote
Frank Elder Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Use a white led with a white or clear lense, red with red, orange with orange, if you use white led with colored lenses they will be dim. 2 Quote
fstfish66 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 i dont know if it would help, on my 40 negitive ground 12volt, the LED flashers i used on my car when in stalled in the fuse box wouldnt work with the car on,,,if the car was off,key off,,power hooked to the battery,,the flashed was clicking,,,i made pig tails mounted the flasher out side the box and reversed the wiring on the flasher,,works perfect,,maybe that would work on your positive ground system,,,,just my .02 cents,,, look on jegs .com summit .com,,for led flashers,,,your local auto zone carries them also,,, Quote
bluefoxamazone Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Posted August 18, 2015 i dont know if it would help, on my 40 negitive ground 12volt, the LED flashers i used on my car when in stalled in the fuse box wouldnt work with the car on,,,if the car was off,key off,,power hooked to the battery,,the flashed was clicking,,,i made pig tails mounted the flasher out side the box and reversed the wiring on the flasher,,works perfect,,maybe that would work on your positive ground system,,,,just my .02 cents,,, look on jegs .com summit .com,,for led flashers,,,your local auto zone carries them also,,, in my flasher there seems to be a diode that only allows power in one direction. In the meantime I have seen that installing a load resistor might be the best solution. I'll give this a try...Just have to figure out the right resistance value. I think 1 ohm but I can be wrong....(it has been a long time since I learned Ohm's law) Quote
mopar_earl Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 in my flasher there seems to be a diode that only allows power in one direction. In the meantime I have seen that installing a load resistor might be the best solution. I'll give this a try...Just have to figure out the right resistance value. I think 1 ohm but I can be wrong....(it has been a long time since I learned Ohm's law) Take your meter and measure ohms across the bulb and multiply by 2 and that's the load you need to keep the same flash rate. Measure the correct element in the bulb as there are two elements. Earl Quote
bluefoxamazone Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Posted August 19, 2015 in the meantime I have found a 6 volt flasher relay for led of which the company claims that it works on positive ground. I have ordered one for 20 usd. I'll see what it brings. I won't be able to install it before half september...I 'll let the forum know if it works or if I am screwed for 20 bucks... :-) 1 Quote
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