Stuck here at Farmer Boys. Car won't go into reverse.

[47heaven]

Hey guys....trying to get some quick advice here. Trying to get the Plymouth to go into reverse, but refuses to go up into reverse gear. Will go into 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but not reverse. I tried to put it into neutral, but it's stuck in one of the gears it seems. Cant go forward because i'm in a parking stall. Also, o/d is engaged and won't allow me to pull the

cable to disengage it either. When I was trying to force the shifter into reverse I could smell the clutch. Turned motor off and haven't tried since

So what is the issue here? What can be done to free it?

[47heaven]

Hey guys....trying to get some quick advice here. Trying to get the Plymouth to go into reverse, but refuses to go up into reverse gear. Will go into 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but not reverse. I tried to put it into neutral, but it's stuck in one of the gears it seems. Cant go forward because i'm in a parking stall. Also, o/d is engaged and won't allow me to pull the

cable to disengage it either. When I was trying to force the shifter into reverse I could smell the clutch. Turned motor off and haven't tried since

So what is the issue here? What can be done to free it?

[47heaven]

I mean when the shifter is in neutral, it's still in some gear and won't let me push it back.

[Dodgeb4ya]

R10 or R7? Non stock solenoid switch?

Try jacking one wheel up (releases torque on trans gears)  and releasing brake so the wheel will turn. Maybe start it too... then try  shifting.

Chalk the wheels of course!

Bob

Edited July 30, 2014 by Dodgeb4ya

[ol'skool]

With the OD, you can't go into reverse because the OD is "engaged".  They are designed this way so when the OD is engaged, you can't back up due to the design of the one way roller clutch.  Get the OD disengaged and you should be able to get into reverse.

[Dodgeb4ya]

Get the load off the trans gears-pull the OD cable out.

I've seen this happen before-generally with a after market solenoid control switch leaving OD pawl engaged when parking. Not a good idea.

Edited July 30, 2014 by Dodgeb4ya

[suntennis]

Selecting reverse gear can be done when overdrive is engaged or not. When overdrive is engaged, reverse gear selection acts as if there was no overdrive. Because of this, when overdrive is selected and you park the car, select reverse gear to aid the parking brake. Your problem is in the shift linkage. See transmission problem of Joe Flanagan on July 26, 2014 and the replys

Edited July 30, 2014 by suntennis

[Joe Flanagan]

In my case, a washer was missing in the linkage, allowing excessive play and causing a part of the linkage to pop out of place. The effect was no 1st and reverse. If that is what's happened to you, then what you think ought to be reverse is actually second. See if you can get an extra set of eyes on it while you go through the gears. That's how I discovered what was going on with mine.

[Furylee2]

This happened on the 2003 cross country tour.  Gut with a 40 sedan (Larry LaBrock?) stopped at Chimney Rock to sight see.  Left the car in OD and parked up against a curb.  Came back out and couldn't get it in reverse.  I suggested picking the rear of the car up and rolling it away from the curb.

 

One of the guys had a floor jack, so we put it under the pumpkin and picked up the rear axel.  We rolled it out in the drive, he jumped in and drove it away.  He was careful not to leave it in OD for the rest of the trip.

[Dodgeb4ya]

^^^^ another winner!

[47heaven]

Thanks for the troubleshooting replies. Sorry I'm getting back right now, but was off the computer all day yesterday.

So here's what happened. I was waiting for some responses on here, but it seemed that no one was responding right away. So I called a couple buddies up and explained my dilemma. They told me to try to move the linkage around and see if it was bound. So I gave it a shot, but couldn't see anything. Then, the manager of the restaurant told me that I couldn't work on the car there, and that I had to move it. I explained to him what had happen. So he suggested that I call a tow truck because he didn't want the car there, especially by the entrance, which I can understand, but nonetheless, he was being a real dick. 

Anyway, called a tow truck out and explained to the driver that if I could get the car backed up and in a position that I could go forward I wouldn't need the tow. So he was able to lift up the back with the hoist on the truck and we moved the car back in to the main part of the parking lot. He then let it down, and I was able to drive forward. I came back around and stopped. I tried to but it into reverse, and still nothing. The o/d still didn't pull out. I proceeded to drive out to the main street. Once I was on there, I tried to get the o/d to kick in by letting off the gas, as usual. It took a couple tries, but it finally kicked in. I then pulled into a parking lot and stopped. I tried reverse, and it worked. I was also able to pull the o/d cable out to disengage it, as well. I decide to back into the garage this time instead of pulling in to play it safe.

 

This morning I took it out and drove it. It's now taking more tries to get the o/d to kick in than it did before. So, as long as I have the o/d disengaged when I park, I can go up into reverse. What I'm concerned about is if this will happen if I have to come to a stop on the road and want to disengage the o/d or if I stop and have to back up a little, will the same thing happen when I try to go into reverse? Maybe if the car is still running when I stop, it might not. Hard to tell.

 

This didn't used to happen before, with o/d in or out when I parked. Maybe the solenoid is going out?

 
 


 

[47heaven]

Selecting reverse gear can be done when overdrive is engaged or not. When overdrive is engaged, reverse gear selection acts as if there was no overdrive. Because of this, when overdrive is selected and you park the car, select reverse gear to aid the parking brake. Your problem is in the shift linkage. See transmission problem of Joe Flanagan on July 26, 2014 and the replys

Ok, I will check that out. Thanks!

[greg g]

So will you going back to that restaurant again???  Will you be recommending it to your friends?  Might you be saying something like, "well I can't really recommend a place, but I can tell you where not to go." ?   Hope you get your situation figured out.  Maybe you should share your experience with the manager on Farmer Boys Face book site.

Edited July 31, 2014 by greg g

[50 coupe]

What kind of moron hassles someone cause their car is broke down in their parking lot? Should of left a huge oil slick in the parking spot. 

[47heaven]

So will you going back to that restaurant again???  Will you be recommending it to your friends?  Might you be saying something like, "well I can't really recommend a place, but I can tell you where not to go." ?   Hope you get your situation figured out.  Maybe you should share your experience with the manager on Farmer Boys Face book site.

No, Greg. Most likely won't be going back. 

[DJ194950]

47 heaven.

Take a look at the resources section of this forum- manuals- r-10 maintenance - Page 10-11

 

Details about a OD unit that stays Locked in (which prevents getting reverse) and how to fix it, fairly easy with only removal of OD solenoid and a screwdriver.

 

Hope its that easy.

 

Forgot to say make sure the OD solenoid does not have power to it, keeping it engaged same idea as above. (bad relay)?

 

DJ

[47heaven]

47 heaven.

Take a look at the resources section of this forum- manuals- r-10 maintenance - Page 10-11

 

Details about a OD unit that stays Locked in (which prevents getting reverse) and how to fix it, fairly easy with only removal of OD solenoid and a screwdriver.

 

Hope its that easy.

 

Forgot to say make sure the OD solenoid does not have power to it, keeping it engaged same idea as above. (bad relay)?

 

DJ

DJ-

 

This is the second OD solenoid I have put on this car, and it is a used one, at that. I'm hoping that it is an easy fix, and that I don't need a new one because these aren't falling off of trees anymore. It took me a while to find the one I have on there now.

I will read the link on the OD.

 

Thanks!