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1954 dodge royal 500 convertible Pacecar restoraton part 1


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Great news on the windshield mopar.. hope they can make it.

I'd like to have one someday too.

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I was able to make contact with the glass guy today. I will have to send him my old windshield for him to make a template from. I will have to ship it to Spokane WA and then up to Canada from there. It will cost $600 to make the template since he has not make one for a 54 royal convertible. Then $1200 to make the windshield. I'm half way thinking of getting two made up since I would not have to pay him to make up another template. Then I would have a spare or one for someone else if they needed it. He told me there is a glass company that makes curved windshields in Detroit area for prototype cars but they are very busy it if they would make the windshield it would probably it would probably be several years. He is running about 6-9 months behind schedule himself. He told me some of the cars he has made windshields for have sold for $200,000 to $300,000.

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OMG  ...................That is expensive .. time to search the junkyards .

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update  on my brakes 

no luck yet..

after installing  the new brake hoses and setting the heel and toe on the shoes .. it still has some dragging yet. .. backing up is fine .. going forward is the problem..  I took it out around the block and  noticed once  the shoes have a little heat in them the dragging goes away. Oh Yeah   forgot to say when I set the heeel and toe up, I noticed there was brake fluid seaping out of the shoes in a few places..  There is nothing leaking from wheel cyls or lines so.......... it appears the shoes are saturated with fluid and  that causes the shoes to drag until they heat up and disperse that fluid on the shoes . that is my guess. what do you guys think.. if it does not disapate it's time for front shoes. buy yeah after driving  around the block a few times they don't drag anymore just  alittle pulling to one side .  I think I need to Re -bleed  all 4 brakes again  also. that may help the pulling to one side or other.  I'm just wondering is there is some debris in the master cyl that is causing some of these issues . with the relases of the shoes .

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If you're shoes have brake fluid on them then the cylinders are leaking. Or it is leaking on the line in the back of the cylinder and down onto the shoes. The shoes should be dry and free of fluid in order to be effective. The fluid on the shoes decreases the friction that is used to stop the car. As far as the dragging, it sounds like the need to be re-adjusted. And as far as pulling one side to the other, the re-adjustment may help with that as well.

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If you're shoes have brake fluid on them then the cylinders are leaking. Or it is leaking on the line in the back of the cylinder and down onto the shoes. The shoes should be dry and free of fluid in order to be effective. The fluid on the shoes decreases the friction that is used to stop the car. As far as the dragging, it sounds like the need to be re-adjusted. And as far as pulling one side to the other, the re-adjustment may help with that as well.

chris 

cylinders are brand new all  front and rears. no leaking on the lines or cyls .. but the  old shoes were not replaced because they had a lot of  meat left on  them .. but after sitting for 40 years    the shoes were wet from the cyls leaking. I did not replace the shoes.   which I think that is some of the problem change much.   

I bled all the cyls today with my buddy pumping  and working the pedal.    that  bleeding seemed to of help  a little .

 

One thing I notice today was one of  the left front bleeders  did not bleed right ........... it did not shoot a stream of fluid out when I cracked open the bleeder screw..   I have to take that aparts and see why  it does  not shoot a nice stream of fluid out .   might be the problem.

 

I noticed  that  a wet shoe will always have a tendency to make that brake grab when applied.

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Left front bleeder valve: " . . . did not shoot a stream. . . " May be a prostrate problem. My front valve is somewhat like that also. LOL

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I had the same problems with my prostate. This last winter I pushed my doctor to run some more tests and found out I had prostate cancer. Had it removed and none of that problem any more. Don't mess around with it.

Dodge59- check out my dodge royal facebook page. I felt like I made some progress this week. As far as your brakes go, I would recommend replacing the shoes. They tend to get spongy when they have soaked up brake fluid. I had to replace mine for that reason. I also re built my master cyl and then spent a whole day trying to bleed the brakes. I still couldn't get the peddle to hold good pressure so cleaned up the old parts and the brakes worked fine. not sure what was bad with the new parts, they looked fine.

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 brake problem solved !

 

after working on the front brake shoes  for at least 10hours .......... it's  finally fixed .

 these 50's mopar cars  brake systems really SUCK ..

I never seen something so complicated..    but I got it !

 

received my new brake shoes from andy berbaum and installed them.

No problems at all now.. go figure.

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Congratulations. It feels so good when you finally figure out what the problem is.

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1954 dodge royal 500 convertible Pacecar restoraton part 1

 

When do we get to part 2  ???

 

Next summer when he starts hitting the car shows :)

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you guys are funny ! hahahaha

yeah.... I plan on taking some out of state car shows with the old girl next summer.. can't wait to show her off... iola wi indy pacecar feature car 2015 for sure. july

I'm still searching for that correct 4bl oil bath air cleaner . If anyone has one for sale or any leads to one, let me know. see pic. Thanks !

i'm waiting on the top shop to get the top installed before winter. he is a little busy. then it will be in hibernation till spring .

john

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alright........

date is november 4 tuesday to have the top installed.

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working on my 1954 dodge convertible interior door panels and will need some of the interior stainless trim pieces on them. see pics .

if anyone out there has a parts car or parts off a 54 dodge royal or coronet model , I need the interior door Stainless trim pieces (tops and bottoms ) 2 or 4 doors ........... does not matter.. I will custom cut to fit.

tops are about 1" wide

bottoms are 1/2" wide. see pics

my pacecar rears are all missing and the front bottoms are missing too . go figure.

Thanks !

john

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fstfish

yes the yello air cleaner is correct for that era . I seen several pics of a 54 dodge with it on the 241 hemi with a 4 bl carb. etc: jay leno's 54 dodge wagon some sport coupes and the indy pacecars . so there were quite a few out there then.

john

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fstfish

I am still searching for that yellow air cleaner . that is a hard one to fine..

mopar must have produced that one especially for the 54 heme with 4 bl.. I have not seen one for sale like it yet.

if you guys see one let me know where it is. interested .

here are a couple pics of the air cleaner searching for.

Thanks !

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update on the indy pacecar

today >> installed the radio ,clock, glove box door and glove box liner . Everything works great . The dash looks Awesome !

love it ! See pic .

The old girl goes in for her top next tuesday.

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Beautiful as usual with your work!  :D

 

DJ

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Love that dash! I would suggest you get a different key bob. I think they make Mopar ones! LOL. Anxious to see the entire car.

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