MarkAubuchon Posted February 2, 2014 Report Posted February 2, 2014 Rebuilding the front end on my 49 business coupe. I bought the a frame shafts, seals and bushings, Anyone know a source for the steering Knuckle bushings? are they the same as the others. Want to make it right. Quote
suntennis Posted February 2, 2014 Report Posted February 2, 2014 Are you asking about the king pin bushings? King pin assembly sets are available, but do not if you can buy only the bushings. Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 ok: According to my Toledo Steel Suspension catalog the upper bushing and lower bushing is K5821 and these were used from 1938 and up. do not know anyone just selling the bushing but at least you know the years that will work Rich HArtung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Andydodge Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Mark..what exactly are you looking for?...........from your post I assume you have either the upper or lower inner shaft, bushes and seals.......if you are looking for the bronze king pin bushes that go in the stub axle you may have a problem as whilst they may have been an item that could have been purchased yrs ago getting them separately from a kingpin set maybe very hard to do as most dealers now sell the complete kingpin set as a unit which includes the pins,2 bushes, bearing, kingpin cotter pin, upper and lower welch plugs and shims...x 2 for a pair to do each side ..........I needed set of kingpin bushes for a 1951 Chev I had yrs ago and couldn't find any.......I was able to take the stub axle to a local engineering shop who removed the old bushes and machined up a set of 4 nice new bronze bushes.......the even machined a shallow groove inside each bush lined up with the grease hole to assist in ensuring the grease covered the whole kingpin and installed them back in the stub axle for a quite reasonable price........a similar thing could be done for a set of mopar stub axle as the kingpin bushes are just tubular and a competent machinist with a lathe would easily knock these over........dunno if this helps.......lol...................andyd... Quote
MarkAubuchon Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Posted February 3, 2014 not the king pins. its the upper and lower threaded bushings for the steering knuckle that's what it is called in the service manual. thanks I will check out Toledo steel Quote
TodFitch Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 not the king pins. its the upper and lower threaded bushings for the steering knuckle that's what it is called in the service manual. thanks I will check out Toledo steel If I understand what you want and the slightly different names I see on the web site, it looks like Rare Parts in Stockton has them. Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 from toledo steel 49 ply also 46-50 plymouth upper kn suupport pin kit 10072 lr kn support pin kit 10045N upper control arm shaft kit 13018A lower control arm shaft kit 13014a these are also used for Dodge 1946 - 50 Write to me at my home email Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Andydodge Posted February 4, 2014 Report Posted February 4, 2014 Mark, o/k, as far as I know they are the same up to 1956........I'd be checking ebay up to including 1956 for both Plymouth and Dodge, I'd also be inclined to replace the pins at the same time I replaced the bushes, the lower bush has a hex head and uses a distinctive hex headed rubber seal, I have also seen the bush with 2 different hex head sizes and rubber seal hex sizes although the bush itself, both inner and outer threaded areas were the same size........also have seen the pins in 2 lengths, otherwise identical.........make sure you run a piece of wire thru the pin before use to ensure the grease hole is clear..........regards, andyd Quote
bob westphal Posted February 4, 2014 Report Posted February 4, 2014 Mark, I can't make heads nor tails of what you're asking. Roberts, the sponsor of this forum, has all the front suspension parts you need to completely rebiuld your front end. Like has been said the front suspensions are the same '39 thru '56. No one sells any of these parts separately. The control arm parts come as a kit as do the king pin sets. The tie rod ends are sold seperately. Bob Quote
MarkAubuchon Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Posted February 4, 2014 Rich and Andy, thanks for the information I will look into as we speak. Quote
greg g Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 My manual refers to the parts as knuckle bushing and king pin bushings interchangeably. Quote
Andydodge Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 Mark........lol........you need to get us all out of our confusion.........lol...........what do you need.....lol...........regards, andyd (btw I'm in Oz so everything is upsidedown...lol) Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 Mark: From what I can determine you want to know what are the various suspension control arms upper and lower and the eccentric bushing to control the camber bushings. Is this correct? If so then the info that I posted is what are the numbers that I can provide. Also write. to my home email Desoto1939@aol.com and I can send you some more info if this is what you are looking for, Rich HArtung Quote
MarkAubuchon Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 Rich, Andy and Greg, are all correct. It seems, when you reference the repair manual, it is called one part (steering knuckle) but when you go to the interweb its called the upper outer and lower outer bushings.. I have figured it out and believe it or not had already ordered them from Roberts (his web site doesn't have a picture that would have cleared all of the confusion up immediately , rare parts did) Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 The steering knuckle is know at the peice that has the king pins and the knuckle pivots on the king pins. MArk write to me at my home address email I have a 49 Plymouth printout of the various components and a couple of manufacturers and their appropriate part numbers. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
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