radon331 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Posted December 30, 2012 Ok I have a 1950 dodge B2B truck the engine cranks but wont start. It sometimes shoots fireballs out of the carb or puffs of smoke...lol... but it wont start? I checked the wires to make sure they were on the right plugs and they were correct. Any and all suggestions would greatly be appreciated. I really want to get this truck running again... Quote
JBNeal Posted December 30, 2012 Report Posted December 30, 2012 2-second burst of ether starting fluid down the carb, pull the choke all the way out, crank again and see what happens...if you're timing is off, that'll be real loud POP out of the carb Quote
Frank Elder Posted December 30, 2012 Report Posted December 30, 2012 http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=8 Quote
radon331 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Posted December 30, 2012 I did the ether and the choke then heard a loud pop and puff of smoke... does that mean timing is off ? Quote
radon331 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Posted December 30, 2012 I did the ether and pulled the choke...got a loud pop and puff of smoke... would this be the timing? Quote
JBNeal Posted December 30, 2012 Report Posted December 30, 2012 when I revived the '49 a few weeks ago, that's all it would do at first was pop fireballs from ether injection. I figgered out that the fuel pump was malfunctioning as one of the internal check valves had become un-seated. I fixed that, the pump was able to supply fresh gas up to the carb, and the ether burst was then used to get the engine to fire on its own to clean off the fuel, oil, etc on the spark plugs. If you pull the air horn off of the carb and there's no fuel in the reservoir, then you've got a fuel supply problem. Quote
radon331 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Posted December 30, 2012 It doesnt currently have a gas tank. I recently ordered one and was trying just to get it to fire up with a bit of gas in the carb. I know if I open the carb all the way I can see the gas sitting down in the base. Is there another way to supply fuel while I am awaiting my tank? Quote
JBNeal Posted December 30, 2012 Report Posted December 30, 2012 for testing, a temporary fuel tank can be made by using an old lawnmower gas tank or a gas can with a fuel line running from the spout to the fuel pump, but exercise caution and practice safety by keeping a fire extinguisher handy and an escape route clear. If your fuel pump is working, you'll need to pump the carb accelerator a couple of times when cranking to deliver some fuel into the manifold for startup. Quote
radon331 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Posted December 30, 2012 Thanks for all of the info. I will try that when I get back from dinner tonight... If its working I should be able to see gas in the glass bowls as well correct? Thanks again for the info Quote
radon331 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Posted December 31, 2012 I hooked up a test fuel system and fuel pump works great immediately pulled gas up through the lines filled he glass bowls in the fuel pump and the fuel filter. It was popping and smoking aas I was cranking it but it still wouldn't start? I think I flooded it as well... but it still wouldn't start? Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=8 Bad link. The use of starting fluid is not a good idea. Find and fix the real problem and the engine will start. You need compression, fuel and spark delivered at the correct time. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 Do a compression test. All need to be even, preferably 100lbs or higher. Quote
radon331 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Posted December 31, 2012 I will test that tomorrow... what do I do if the compression is low? Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 I will test that tomorrow... what do I do if the compression is low? Rebuild the engine. Quote
radon331 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Posted December 31, 2012 crap...I hope that its not the compression...I really was hoping I wouldn't have to rebuild the engine... Quote
Kudzuking Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 Stuck intake valve? comp test will tell. Quote
greg g Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 recheck the plug wires. If its Fahrting out the carb, its firing on an intake stroke. Chances are even though you think you have the order correct you could be one tower off on the dist. Do a thorough static timing procedure then assure that number one plug alligns with the exact rotor position. happened to me after I installed my rebuilt engine. Quote
John Reddie Posted December 31, 2012 Report Posted December 31, 2012 Along with the other tests mentioned, check your distributor cap inside for carbon tracks. This can cause misfiring along with backfiring because spark plugs are firing when they are not supposed to be. Good luck to you. John R Quote
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