Fog Lights

[carmen142]

I would like to install a set of fog lights on my 1941 P12. Can someone please post a picture of the correct bracket that is used to install them. I see so many on ebay I really dont know what ones to use.

Also what color is correct the clear or yellow lens?

One last thing how do you wire them?

Thank you all so much.

Carmen

[Young Ed]

I believe the factory correct mopar script ones are actually a white lense with a broad yellow band through the middle.

[Mark D]

This is the pair of mounts I just bought...

[desoto1939]

This is the pair of mounts I just bought...

The picture that you have for the forglight bracket is an after market bracket. The correct style is currently on ebay search NOS Mopar foglight bracket. the cost is 99.99.

The unity is smaller in size in the parts. the True Mopar and correct style have the bigger rounded sections.

If you want period correct than the ebay is what you want. If you have a driver thenthe unity is ok.

I have a 39 Desoto and have the bigger brakets that were given to me by a MoPar collector and was very knowledgeable on the vintage MoPar items.

Rich HArtung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[JIPJOBXX]

[BobT-47P15]

I think the yellow or amber lenses were considered "fog" lights back in the day.....

perhaps because the yellow was supposed to penetrate the fog better.

The clear ones were more likely just "driving" lights.

Not totally sure of this however........**edit**there are exceptions according to the articles upcoming.**

Edited December 6, 2012 by BobT-47P15

[BobT-47P15]

Found these definitions on a website, from a British writer........

A "fog lamp" by definition throws a wide broadcast light output (flood light) which is intended to light a wide patch of road close to the car. These lamps should be mounted fairly low on the front of the car and be pointed slightly downward so they light the road full width close at hand and produce minimal reflected glare in fog. A fog lamp may be mounted below the front bumper for best effect (although may be mounted above the bumper as well). Lenses may be clear or amber and are usually fluted to break up the beam in random directions to reduce reflected glare. Some countries require a rear mounted fog lamp to be used to accent your visibility for a driver following your car in dense fog, in which case the lens may be red. Use of a clear lens in a front fog lamp is generally legal and common in older classic cars, but the clear lens can lead to identity confusion with other types of lamps.

A "driving lamp" has a slightly broader definition, most often referring to auxiliary headlights. Casual reference to any auxiliary front lamp as a driving lamp is erroneous. A fog lamp is definitely not a driving lamp. A "driving lamp" is used to see farther down the road in non-foggy conditions.

An auxiliary "driving lamp" may be large or small, round or rectangular, and may have almost any mounting configuration (usually not below the bumper). They should almost always have a clear (not colored) lens, although there can be a wide variety of fluting or plain glass or a combination of flutes and plain glass it a single lamp. Driving lamps commonly have a light throw pattern similar to headlights, although the aux lamps may be more concentrated in the forward direction for better illumination farther down the road and less to the sides. Driving lights like headlights are usually mounted above the bumper to be aimed straight forward with the top of the beam perfectly level for long distance illumination. In most government jurisdictions it is required by law that driving lamps be wired to or triggered by the headlight high beam circuit, so than when you dip your headlights for an oncoming driver the driving lights will go out. This provision of the law is often not enforced, as the cops are usually happy if you just have at least two headlights that actually work.

Now with the descriptions clearly understood, it is easy to tell the difference between a fog light and a driving light. Apply power and shine the light on a wall. A fog lamp will illuminate a wide area including somewhat off to the sides and may appear to be not terribly bright, as the light is widely dispersed. A driving lamp will have a light pattern similar to the common headlights, mostly forward, flat on top, not much to the bottom, and may (or may not) be distinctly asymmetrical for RHD or LHD. Single beam driving lamps are less likely to be asymmetrical. A spotlamp will have a pencil beam which will illuminate an area on the wall not much larger than the lamp itself.

Link to a dissertation on the subject from another writer.............http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html

Edited December 5, 2012 by BobT-47P15

[Plymouthy Adams]

little more to it than color...read this if you wish...

http://www.vclassics.com/archive/lightprn.htm