Andydodge Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Can anyone confirm that a 230 engine will bolt onto a 1936 Plymouth bellhousing. Also, the 230 has an 8 bolt flange on the crank, the 36 has a 4 bolt flange.........will they swap?.........Has anyone direct knowledge of putting a 230 into a 1936 Plymouth.........any info will be appreciated...........thanks, andyd Quote
Robert Horne Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 I have a 36 Dodge bell housing, and a couple of 38 Plymouth bell housings. Either will hook up to my 56, 230 engine, that has 6 bolts on the crank. I have a 218 engine, with a 38 Plymouth bell, and a Ford Ranger trans combo in my 38 Coupe.... Quote
greg g Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 You will find that the flange bolt holes although assymetrical, will allign with the 4 bolt flywheel when the proper orientation is found. the eight bolt deal was to support the extra weight of the Fluid drive assembly. Running the 4 bolt set up with the non FD transmission will be fine. Quote
Andydodge Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Posted December 4, 2012 Robert & Greg, thanks for the replies its for the guy thats looking at buying the 230 engine I have, its going from one side of Oz to the other, 3000kms so its helpful info, I thought it would be o/k...lol......thanks, andyd Quote
Jim Saraceno Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 I have a 230 engine in my 35 with the original '35 bellhousing and tranny. The head and manifold were a problem though. The head (from a '57) had a different size hole for the temperature sensor and the manifold had different tapped holes for the throttle. Both of those could have easily been remedied by a little drilling and tapping but I just reused the older head and manifold. If you have any specific questions, email me at JimCno@gmail.com. Quote
Robert Horne Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Robert & Greg, thanks for the replies its for the guy thats looking at buying the 230 engine I have, its going from one side of Oz to the other, 3000kms so its helpful info, I thought it would be o/k...lol......thanks, andyd The 56 engine I have (230), has the oil pump sump near the center of the engine, where as the 37,(218), engine I have, has the oil pump sump near the rear of the engine. This would be a problem for my 37 Coupe project, if I keep the stock suspension, (leaf spring suspension)... Quote
Young Ed Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 The 56 engine I have (230), has the oil pump sump near the center of the engine,where as the 37,(218), engine I have, has the oil pump sump near the rear of the engine. This would be a problem for my 37 Coupe project, if I keep the stock suspension, (leaf spring suspension)... Thats easily fixed by swapping oil pans. My truck project engine came with a front sump pan from a pilot house truck. My 39-47 project requires the more standard rear sump. A quick swap of the pickup and pan took care of it. Quote
Robert Horne Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Thanks Young Ed, very good to know... Quote
TodFitch Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 These engines are both in Australia right? The '36 was before the Windsor, Ontario engine plant was in operation so it is nearly certainly a 23 inch long block. The '54 230 engine might have been imported to Australia from Canada rather than the US. If so, then it might be the longer 25 inch block. Might want to double check that before paying for 3000Km of shipping charges... Quote
Andydodge Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Posted December 4, 2012 Todd, Robert, Greg & Jim.....again thanks for the extra info & concern..........the deal is that the guy has an Oz 1936 Coupe, with the 23" 201 engine, I have my 41 Plymouth Coupe & the extra 230 engine I was planning to install up for sale...........the guy with the 36 Coupe contacted me about just buying the engine and all the bits that go with it. I was about 99% certain they would fit but its nice to have some extra confirmation knowledge. He intends to hotrod this 36 Coupe and is familiar with having to do the odd bit of fiddling around so linkages etc won't be a problem...........oh and even if I do sell the coupe which will now have a reduced price, I still have my 1940 Dodge Sedan...........so you won't get rid of me that easily...................lol.........thanks & regards, Andy Douglas Quote
Robert Horne Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 My Uncle had a 36 Plymouth Coupe for over 40 years. He installed a Chevy engine/trans/rearend. I have some of his parts on my 38 Coupe. I really enjoy my 38 since I installed the 5 speed Ranger trans. Hope your friend enjoys his 36.... Quote
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