OT(slightly) New Shop

[T120]

I'm having a shop constructed,40'x60'x16' (Post Frame Buiding).The crew arrived at 8:00 AM on schedule,the material was on site.They started with bare ground, I stopped by at 11:00 AM and took this photo.They expect to be finished in a few days,weather permitting.They are a local experienced crew.The concrete floor will be poured at a later date,probably in June.Looking forward to moving in...

[randroid]

Ralph,

Sounds great! I just hope they can get the vertical posts in the upright position before too much more is added but maybe the concrete will straighten them when it gets poured.

-Randy

[T120]

Hi Randy..

I trust everything will be plumb,level and square...I just keep out of their way .I'll post photos of their progress.Wind could cause delays in construction...

Edited May 22, 2012 by Ralph D25cpe
corrected grammar

[T120]

Here's where they ended on day one. I went back around 5 o'clock and they already had left for the day...

[54Illinois]

That looks good!

[T120]

Glad of your approval, 54Illinois - I have too much junk...err,inventory.So,before my neighbours and the city started complaining I bought this property in an industrial area out of town...Also building codes and taxes more to my liking,Been sitting on it for 5 years,trying to decide on what to build (within a tight budget)...should I, or shouldn't I? Then I realized...hey, I'm in my 70th year, so I can't procrastinate any longer.Jay leno's garage it ain't gonna be,however, it will serve my needs...

[TodFitch]

Making us all envious of your soon to be completed shop!

I was under the impression that in cold climates you needed to have a real foundation and that it had to extend below the freeze level. How does the pole barn construction work with that?

[Plymouthy Adams]

if the poles are below the frost line they should not heave..that is the reason they need X depth for X areas..surely they know this and are taking it into account..the pole building is so universal and you can alter the internal floor plan so easily..the ceiling height will make installing a lift a walk in the park..that size building..maybe 2 or 3 lifts...

[T120]

That's true,Tod. The poles are set below frost level.They are laminated pressure treated posts.A few bags of premix concrete are put in the hole and the rest is backfilled with gravel.I took this photo of the posts.It is a cheaper method of construction...

Edited May 22, 2012 by Ralph D25cpe

[T120]

..At least one lift,Tim

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have had my lift for many years now and have come to depend on it for so many things..I really would like to have a second one but...unlike some folks I know in this immediate area that have their's outside in the weather..I do not wish to do that..

[T120]

..Tim,I can tell you,I am really looking forward to having a lift

[Plymouthy Adams]

your knees will love ya...!!!

I have used mine for about any and all things about the shop including doing body work..no more bending over..you will ask how you ever did this stuff before...easy to get spoiled..right now it is serving duty as a storage unit..but that will soon change as I move my coupe to the lift for final underbody fitment of lines and such..

[T120]

=Tim Adams;302163]your knees will love ya...!!!

Yes...Some things do tend to remind us of our age. LOL

Edited May 22, 2012 by Ralph D25cpe

[dezeldoc]

I keep reading of all these pole buildings and wished we could put them up in Ca. but the engineers here seem to think they will collapse with our once every ten year 3" of snow! I know they will hold up to the wind as the aluminum constructed ones do around here. It's gonna be nice when it is done!

[TodFitch]

I keep reading of all these pole buildings and wished we could put them up in Ca. but the engineers here seem to think they will collapse with our once every ten year 3" of snow! I know they will hold up to the wind as the aluminum constructed ones do around here. It's gonna be nice when it is done!

Might be a county by county thing in California. Or maybe the codes changed. But I do know of some people with pole barn constructed buildings in California.

[dezeldoc]

Maybe in farm town but nowhere in so cal.

[55 Fargo]

I keep reading of all these pole buildings and wished we could put them up in Ca. but the engineers here seem to think they will collapse with our once every ten year 3" of snow! I know they will hold up to the wind as the aluminum constructed ones do around here. It's gonna be nice when it is done!

I would think with the correct trusses, and 16 inch centres, 3 inches of snow should not be a problem.

There are all kinds of these buildings in Manitoba, and we can get a lot of snow at times....

[TodFitch]

Maybe in farm town but nowhere in so cal.

One that I knew of was in Ventura county near the LA county line, owned by the fellow who did the body work and paint on my car.

Doing a search I've come up with a few construction companies in California that specialize in pole barns. One of those companies lists a LA city address. And a couple of county building and safety web sites that mention them. Both are rural counties, and they both mention that permits are required and one states that it needs to be signed off by an engineer.

Sounds like they might be legal through out the state but the engineering and permitting might make them infeasible in the larger more metropolitan counties. If I recall correctly you are in the Palmdale/Lancaster area so you are in LA county which does a lot of things its own way.

[dezeldoc]

Something about la county is the culprit. Trying to find a 40x60 building a few years back most company's would say no to la county as to many engineering problems, say they want to much and it is not worth their time. but i found a way around it, bought a new house out of la county and it had 2 shops on it for a total of 3500 sf!! but i still would like a few of those to store cars in.

[Andydodge]

Interesting method to me at least of building........here they dig perimeter footings, say, 300mm square, install reinforcing wire in footings and on 100mm deep floor then lay concrete. The wall material, ie, timber or steel is then built up from the floor. No timber is ever put into the ground unless its treated with an anti termite treatment.........little buggars are everywhere........lol.........your garage looks good.......andyd

[randroid]

Gents,

There are several illusions about living in Colorado that seem to persist regardless what steps are taken to squash them. For instance, we do not all ski, drink Coors, or have shrines built to John Denver. Another is that we all live in rustic log cabins, and that's the point of this reply; it is against Colorado State law to build a log cabin from timber grown in the state so folks who want one need to bring in logs from Whyoming or Utah, which they do. Always confused me a little, though, because I've never seen a VIN on a log; not on the frame, firewall, or on the driver's side A pillar that might indicate its origin. The law gets enforced with vigor, though, so I guess it's better to waste someone else's timber than or own because that way we can go to sleep each night feeling just a little more "green" than anyone else.

-Randy

[Plymouthy Adams]

those trees are needed in Colorado to weed out the novice skiers...

[Andydodge]

And I suppose the 2' high stumps are known as gonad collectors...........and do the same job, albeit at a slower pace...........andyd

[T120]

Here's a couple of photos of the progress today.Yesterday was a bust due to high wind gusts.Today it was a little wet with showers...

Andy - Fortunately termites are not a problem here..

Dezeldoc - As a rule we don't get a lot of snow here and with the metal roof

it should just slide off..

As Fred mentioned this type of building is quite common on the prairies .