Greg F Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Embarrassed to ask, but being this is my first time I have ever tried this, need a little advice. Have a 230 with new 12 volt system. New battery, starter, coil, plugs, solenoid, rebuilt carb (by me), rebuilt distributor (me again). Looks like I have fuel at the carb, spark when I pull a plug, oil pressure. Used a little starter fluid and pops a little. Tried some gas down the carb. Turns over nicely, just can not get her to catch. Is there something I am missing? Really excited to hear her run for the first time. About to take her to a pro to help me out, but thought I give it one more try. Thanks as always for any ideas...GREG Edited February 9, 2012 by AAJetz710 Quote
aero3113 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 Try turning the distributor 180. I had the same problem on my rebuild, started right up after. P.S.- Make sure you have oil pressure before it starts,Good luck! Quote
greg g Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 Or just make sure that the firig order is proper and in the proper dist cap tower coresponding with the correct plug. Its easy to get it one tower off and it will just pop or fire on and back fire another Did you put a ballast resister in line from ign switch to coil? You need one if you as switchig to 12v as a permanent system. Not necessary for quick test runs, but will overheat the coil and toast the points if run for extended period with out one. Quote
Greg F Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Posted February 9, 2012 Will check that out guys. The coil is internally resisted, so think I should be okay. Thanks for the advice, will try it out in the morning...Thanks as always! Quote
mrwrstory Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Check the gas. If you have old gas or gas w/alcohol that has been sitting for a few months, that can be a problem. And are all the ports into the intake manifiold used or plugged? Hang in there and my advice is to resist going to "the pro". It's real satisfying to "pull it off" yourself with help from friends. Edited February 9, 2012 by mrwrstory Quote
pflaming Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 If you have an old fuel pump, the new gas will eat it up the insides! You can do it especially since it 'fired'. I had the same challenge, also, check your plugs, are they gapped the same. I put in new plugs but they were all gapped differently. Quote
Greg F Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Posted February 10, 2012 Not yet. Flipped it 180, but still nothing. Put it back and getting close, I think. Bought a spark plug tester so going to try that to static time it. Another p-15 owner might stop by tomorrow to help. Not going to give up yet. Thanks for asking...Greg Quote
aero3113 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 Did you rotate the rotor 180 or the whole distributor? Quote
thrashingcows Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 You can start from scratch. Pull the plug out of #1 cylinder. Then put your finger over the hole and have someone "Hand crank" the motor until you feel compression against your finger. Then check you crank pulley to make sure your timing is close to where it should be. You should now be at close to TDC for #1 cylinder. Now remove your distributor cap and check to make sure that the plug wire for #1 cylinder is directly over the rotor end. Once you've done this set up the firing order around the distributor and try starting it. If it doesn't fire after this then you probably have another issue...fuel, spark etc. Quote
pflaming Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 On my head, near spark plug #6 is a brass plug. It is on top of the cylinder. I put a long narrow screwdriver in that hole. When piston # 6 is up you then can time also. That way I could tell exactly where TOC was. It is visible in the attached picture. Quote
aero3113 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Posted February 10, 2012 When you rebuilt the motor did you pull the timing chain and gears? Just wondering if the timing marks are lined up. Quote
Greg F Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 Aero, you were right. Bought a spark plug tester and rotated it 180* a second time. I got her to run a couple of times for about 5 seconds, using gas down the carb. I got so excited the first time, that I ran inside to get the wife, but it quit by the time I got back. Think I must have a carb issue as it only runs for a few seconds, with gas down the carb. Man, that was almost as great as hearing my daughter cry for the first time!!! Quote
greg g Posted February 12, 2012 Report Posted February 12, 2012 Won't run long with no fuel in the float bowl. Is your pump working, is your needle and seat valve sticking? Quote
Greg F Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Posted February 12, 2012 Ya that is my next issue to work on. Trying to figure if it is a pump, carb, or both issue. Just seems to be one thing after another. Quote
Desotodav Posted February 12, 2012 Report Posted February 12, 2012 Try a gravity feed direct into the fuel line of your carby (bypassing the fuel pump) as that might eliminate the fuel pump - or prove a carby problem! Desotodav Quote
busycoupe Posted February 12, 2012 Report Posted February 12, 2012 Also make sure that there is no air in the gas line. After replacing my gas line I left it disconnected at the pump then held my hand over the filler pipe and used my air compressor to push fuel through the line to prime it. After reconnecting the line the car started and ran fine. Dave Quote
Greg F Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) She's running!!! Took the carb apart and put it back together and she runs. Have a bad oil leak in the oil pressure line, but will work an that.(maybe that is why the last guy had it capped:mad:) Thanks guys for all the ideas, now time to bleed the brakes and she if she will drive... Edited February 13, 2012 by AAJetz710 Quote
Niel Hoback Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Lookit the grin on that guy! Wooohooo! Quote
thrashingcows Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Congrats on getting it going...Great feeling to hear it run for the first time!! Glad to see you have the fire extinguisher right thee too...safety first;) Quote
mackster Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 happy for you! im glad you didnt give up! got here really late! Quote
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