ggdad1951 Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Posted May 28, 2011 man that guy has stuff! I'm gonna post his info in the parts for sale section. He's got lots (some more than others) of what many of you are looking for. Nice guy, sat and talked to him for 2 hours after poking around parts. He's a PW guy, but has lots of Dodge parts. Good news is my drums will work, just can't be turned anymore. They are at the limit. But I got 2 backups from him for a good price! Quote
Young Ed Posted May 30, 2011 Report Posted May 30, 2011 Ah I see you went to see powerwagon john. Yes he's got a ton of stuff and some of the most forgiving neighbors ever. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Posted June 3, 2011 picked up my oversized shoes today for tomorrows work. Only question is these are narrower than the originals, but more pad on the arc...problem? LOVE to original packaging! Quote
Frank Elder Posted June 3, 2011 Report Posted June 3, 2011 You are installing 1952 OEM brake shoes?? Or have they been relined? Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) OEM oversized for my worn rear drums. Edited June 3, 2011 by ggdad1951 Quote
Frank Elder Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 I am not chastising or lecturing...I don't have the right to do so, just asking. Wouldn't brake pads that old just crumble under stopping pressure, I think personally they won't be safe......someone else please chime in, this sounds dangerous to me. Quote
HanksB3B Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 The old brake shoes I have in my brake spare parts tub are more than likely OEM worn out shoes. The Asbestos (enter Erin Brocovich, or other Mesothelioma Lawyer) seems as good as the day it was made. I guess taking it easy till you know is always a good thing. Hank Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) I see no problem using .030" old stock MoPar brake lining -that was always kept dry of course. Only problem it seems is the linings are too narrow-like 1-3/4" for 14-1/8" drum? If so they are Power Wagon rear linings. Regular civilian 48-53 1 ton Dodge truck use 2" wide linings/shoes on the rear 14-1/8" diameter drums. Bob Edited June 4, 2011 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
Dave72dt Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 picked up my oversized shoes today for tomorrows work. Only question is these are narrower than the originals, but more pad on the arc...problem?LOVE to original packaging! When you install them, check for squareness to the backing plate and compare the gap to the backing plate between those and the original. there's a possibilty they may tip sideways a bit when appplied. I hope they're riveted linings. I've seen some old, bonded linings come unglued after a few stops, especially hard stops. Quote
MBF Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 About 35 yrs ago in my '53 Chev passenger car I was going down the road with a set of NOS brake shoes that had been installed within the last 6 mos. All of a sudden the right rear wheel locked up after applying the brakes. When we took it apart I found that the bonding on the rear shoe had failed and the lining had gotten wedged between the front shoe and drum. Went to NAPA and replace all four sets of shoes. Mike Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) Yah all of these same thoughts have gone thru my head already, but with my worn drums to some degree I have no real choice. They are the more narrow shoes for PW but this is the last hurrah for these worn out drums. These shoes look great with little rust on them for being 60 years old. In about 3 hours they are getting put on unless something big jumps out at me. My current shoes are all but adjusted all the way out and I see a failure mode in the brakes that way as well. hmmm you guys all have me paranoid now, which with brakes is probably a good thing. Might just swap out the wheel cylinder and deal with it that way. I'm trying to decide which is worse, losing the brakes (can down shift/turn off truck) or locking a wheel up at speed (holding on for dear life and trashing a tire possibly rim)... Edited June 4, 2011 by ggdad1951 Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 I have a person (shop) that does all my old car shoe relining. He can put oversize linings on almost any type of shoe. If you do decide this could be the way to go why not find a company to do this for you. You are not the only one running a dodge 1 ton with worn rear drums. I think one of mine is at .080". If the pistons are all the way out maybe extending the tip of the shoe that goes into the piston-(welding it up) professional welder or equivalent! then reline your old shoes. Just a extreme thought! Bob Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Posted June 4, 2011 paranoia won. I use the old shoes that had had relined and will take back (if I can the PW shoes). I'd rather have a spongy brake that tells me I have an issue coming up vs. a locked up drum on a curve that makes me roll the truck. Next time (if ever) I'll have the shoes relined with thicker material. I figure the minor adjustment is over half a cam away from full out and they planned for that so I've got some wear available (and in 4 years when I need a project, I redo the rear brakes). Quote
Young Ed Posted June 5, 2011 Report Posted June 5, 2011 paranoia won. I use the old shoes that had had relined and will take back (if I can the PW shoes). I'd rather have a spongy brake that tells me I have an issue coming up vs. a locked up drum on a curve that makes me roll the truck.Next time (if ever) I'll have the shoes relined with thicker material. I figure the minor adjustment is over half a cam away from full out and they planned for that so I've got some wear available (and in 4 years when I need a project, I redo the rear brakes). I'm sure brake and equipment would put thicker linings on there without issue. Quote
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