ethanol gasoline

[Plymouthy Adams]

aw the sweet advantage a clean burning computer controlled engine has today...we slipping everything now from cylinder to varying the valves..gotta love it ..TILL YOU HAVE A PROBLEM....lol then its the short hairs baby...eeeeow...!!

[Captain Neon]

Hey Cap'n,

lol, don't believe the lies! Yeah, for anyone studying alternative energies and economics the consensus is ethanol derived from corn is a bad deal. Unfortunately there's some individuals who have a vested interest in doing their best to keep the corn conversion going. I really wish that making money didn't make people support long-term (heck, even short term) bad ideas.

Believe me when I say that I don't buy the hype. I worked in an ethanol plant and interned for a powerful Minnesota legislator that had a personal interest the ethanol industry. If not the first, Minnesota was an early adopter of 10% ethanol in all petrol sold within the state.

[Young Ed]

In the mid 90s we got it in all the gas in the summer and within a year or two it was in it all year long. There are some stations around the state that sell gas without it for use in collector vehicles.

[TodFitch]

... By the way a 2011 Hemi charger RT showed 25 mpg over the 250 mile trip I took mostly with the cruise set at 73.

I've taken quite a few highway trips this winter and it is 300 miles each way to one of the places I volunteer at. Anyway with the cruise control set at 72 this winter I averaged 45 MPG with the ethanol debased gas. Last year without ethanol I averaged 52 MPG. Same car, same driver, different fuel, about 15% decrease in mileage.

[Joe Flanagan]

The answer, my friends, is methane.

[Plymouthy Adams]

I've taken quite a few highway trips this winter and it is 300 miles each way to one of the places I volunteer at. Anyway with the cruise control set at 72 this winter I averaged 45 MPG with the ethanol debased gas. Last year without ethanol I averaged 52 MPG. Same car, same driver, different fuel, about 15% decrease in mileage.

so lets get this in a linear perspective....

15% alcohol...15% less mileage..0.00% at the pump savings and higher cost for added fuel to go same distance..yes..even making it even more expenisve to the customer after footing all the reaearch in grants, subsidizing production and higher food cost due to less grain for consumption..

[Don Coatney]

"hybred vehicles"? Methinks you meant "flex-fuel vehicles".

You are correct. I should have said flex-fuel.

[Young Ed]

And Tim its only recently gone to 15% in some places. Most are still only 10%. So if/when we are all using 15% will the MPG drop increase again? probably

[Plymouthy Adams]

Ed, odd are that to bank on a decrease against an increase would be a bet better placed