ggdad1951 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) ok, I was ALL happy today to get my rebuild kit for my distributor...BUT it turns out everything (points, condenser, etc.) are all mirrored from the parts I got in my distributor! My distributor also seems to be mirrored from the manuals as well! Also, I seem to be missing a few wires as shown in the parts and shop manuals...anyone have a clue as the what the heck is going on here? Can someone please post s a nice closeup of their distributor interior? I'll call up Gary tomorrow and I'm sure he's gonna groan when my truck turns out to be unique AGAIN! The condensor I can flip in its bracket but the points? thanks guys! Edited February 25, 2011 by ggdad1951 Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Did you give them the dist code when you ordered? I suspect you have parts for the wrong dist #. FYI all that stuff is available locally. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 ok, thanks Ed, I'll swing by NAPA next week to annoy my friendly favorite desk girl. I'll bring my distributor to make sure stuff is right. BUT, still I question why I didn't have the connector wires depicted in the books? Might mine a be a newer replacement? Honestly, this is the first distributor I've touched in 25 years, so I'm a bit outa the loop. Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Post the letter code. Should be something like IAT IGS etc. Certainly possible yours is newer or older. Not sure why you don't have the wires in the book. They had different configerations but still had the same basic hookups. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 here ya go...and you get to see the nicely cleaned and painted part as well! Where would these wires go? as on the data tag: PN 1274066 IAY-40003-1 2F000404 Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 The only other wire in the dist should be the little grounding pigtail. As far as an IAY dist its not a # I'm familiar with. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 WHAT grounding pigtail? There wasn't one in there when I tore it apart for cleaning! I'm sooooo frustrated with this thing! I'm actually entertaining the PerTronix route...so hidden no one would ever know, but those I tell. Thoughts? Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 I'll take a look at my dist pile after work. I know there's 3-4 of them in the garage. Quote
wallytoo Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 i believe that's the same arrangement of the parts as mine has. no vacuum advance, only mechanical. Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 As you have learned points for these distributors must match the distributor as not all distributors are configured equally. Even if you convert to an electronic module it still needs to be wired correctly. The ground wire in the picture below is NOT the one the screwdriver is pointing to. Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Napa does show an IAY for a 51 1ton. Condensor # ECH AL116, cap ECH AL106, rotor ECH AL107, and I think these are the points ECH CS725A. The points dont list IAY but they do show some of the same other dist #s that the other parts show. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 i believe that's the same arrangement of the parts as mine has. no vacuum advance, only mechanical. AH HA! I did not have a vacuum advance either! hmmm....PerTronix sounds better and better, assuming they have what I need! Quote
wallytoo Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 WHAT grounding pigtail? There wasn't one in there when I tore it apart for cleaning! yours doesn't have a grounding pigtail. nor a vacuum advance. Quote
wallytoo Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 AH HA! I did not have a vacuum advance either!hmmm....PerTronix sounds better and better, assuming they have what I need! perhaps the grounding pigtail is needed only on the vacuum advance models? Quote
Dave72dt Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) The little grounding wire has a -205 suffix on it. According to the parts list for the 1274066, it doesn't use the grounding wire so you're not supposed to need one. It's not missing anything. The IAY information is important. It used a different cap than some of the others. Used in B3,4Ds only. I'd have to download Sec. 8 of the parts listing again to verify. Edited February 25, 2011 by Dave72dt info correction-model usage Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 whew...thanks guys, I thought I was losing my mind! Would it be "better" to rebuild (is this a good version of the distributor?) or put a different one in/go the electronic route? I've got this one all purdy already! Quote
Dave72dt Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 If everything is tight, go with what you have. It's original. Correction on usage- B3,4Ds only Quote
Dave72dt Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 According to Autolite it uses:#CS725 (AL-93HV) points, AL107 rotor, AL106 cap, AL869 condenser Condenser appears to be universal to distibutoprs used in the Dodge trucks. Quote
Young Ed Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 Mark I'd use it. Easy enough to change to something later if you don't like it. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Posted February 25, 2011 yah, going tohit up NAPA over lunch for the "old" parts...that way I'm staying "true" to the resto as well. thanks for all the help guys! Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 In all the tune-up kits that I have seen and even purchased I have never seen the small grounding wires included. If you have a dizzy that uses these very small wires then you need to purchase them seperately. I do have an Echlin parts manual and also an autolite manual that I have scanned to CD's and this lists all the parts for your cars and trucks. If you want a copy then write to me with you vehcile information and I will then confirm that this information is in the manual and will let you know the price for the cd. Information is the key to fixing our old cars and trucks. Go see my older posting onthe Napa and Autolite catalogs that was posted back around the beginning of Feb 2011. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
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