55 Fargo Posted January 3, 2011 Report Posted January 3, 2011 Hey all, I noticed my 4 year old Smithy, has a tiny hole in it, with exhaust bellowing out of this hole. Now you need a cold day like today to see this. I am not sure what Muffler I may use next, as I have single exhaust, I may go for something of better quality, and more quiet. Any suggestions, for another muffler fora single exhaust set-up, how about some muffler tape over the hole............thanx Fred PS my winter start ups, no doubt have caused the muffler to rust through.... Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 I dont have a good picture so I must ask, Is the hole near the rear welded seam on the muffler? Is it a water drain hole by design? Or is a rust hole? My dual Smythy mufflers have been on the road for several years now and I have no leaks that I know of. Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Posted January 4, 2011 I dont have a good picture so I must ask, Is the hole near the rear welded seam on the muffler? Is it a water drain hole by design? Or is a rust hole? My dual Smythy mufflers have been on the road for several years now and I have no leaks that I know of. The holes are a result of rust through, and no doubt caused by Me starting the engine in winter, and moisture not burning out of the muffler, or condensation from the extreme cold. I do know I have a hole as a result with exhaust gas exiting through it. I can patch it with muffler tape, as it is really small, or do the right fix, and replace the muffler. Any suggestions, the hole is near the welded seam....Fred Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 In my P15 parts manual, it shows as original an oval shaped muffler. That's what I had on the convert til it backfired a few times and fattened it up some. I then replaced it with a resonator muffler that makes just a little more noise. I'd say you could do a repair of sorts on your current muffler, with the idea it will eventually need replacement. Probably get you thru the winter months. You might even do a hole patch with some material that sets up hard, then put tape around it. Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) In my P15 parts manual, it shows as original an oval shaped muffler.That's what I had on the convert til it backfired a few times and fattened it up some. I then replaced it with a resonator muffler that makes just a little more noise. I'd say you could do a repair of sorts on your current muffler, with the idea it will eventually need replacement. Probably get you thru the winter months. You might even do a hole patch with some material that sets up hard, then put tape around it. Well Bob, don't need to worry about "winter months", as my car goes no further than my gravel road, will install a nice quiet muffler in spring, with single exhaust, I prefer quiet, the Smithy I have on now, does not sound as cool as the others who have dual exhaust, just the way it is.........Fred Edited January 4, 2011 by Rockwood Quote
garbagestate 44 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 I have found that firebrick cement used for furnace repair works pretty good for a temporary fix. It's available at hardware stores etc. You put it in the hole and let it dry long enough so that exhaust pressure won't blow it out when you start the engine. After that, the exhaust heat makes it hard as a rock. good luck. Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 Say, what Shel................??????? Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 A muffler man, who's good with a torch, can fit in most any shape, size or color muffler. Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Say, what Shel................??????? What Shel is saying is remove the pictures when you quote someone. Quote
Andydodge Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Fred, muffler bandage would work, you could get the hole welded up or the best bet........drill a few more holes around it so you won't notice that rusty one and the new sound will overcome the old puff, puff sound........lol.......andyd(teenager at heart) Quote
Roadkingcoupe Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 In my P15 parts manual, it shows as original an oval shaped muffler. On the 1939 Plymouth the base car (P7 trim) was equipped with a round muffler. The "deluxe" P8 model 1939 Plymouth was equipped with the oval muffler. Same year two different mufflers! Of course with the P8 you received a vehicle equipped with "steering column" shifting. The 1939 Plymouth P7's were the last of the "floor" shift cars. Funny that the P7 with "floor" shifter is a 2 person coupe and the P8 with "column" shifting was considered a three person coupe. Quote
TodFitch Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 On the 1939 Plymouth the base car (P7 trim) was equipped with a round muffler. The "deluxe" P8 model 1939 Plymouth was equipped with the oval muffler. Same year two different mufflers! Of course with the P8 you received a vehicle equipped with "steering column" shifting. The 1939 Plymouth P7's were the last of the "floor" shift cars. Funny that the P7 with "floor" shifter is a 2 person coupe and the P8 with "column" shifting was considered a three person coupe. Not funny at all: The main reason for going to a column shift was to allow the middle position of the front seat to be usable for seating. However with the increased girth of people today it is a bit hard to believe that getting three people in the front seat of a 1930s vehicle would be comfortable at all. Quote
Young Ed Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 I know its certainly a challenge in my 46 pickup with the new for 1939 "3 man cab". Quote
Roadkingcoupe Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 I know its certainly a challenge in my 46 pickup with the new for 1939 "3 man cab". 53" divided by three = 17.66" per person 47" divided by three = 15.66" per person 1939 Plymouth coupe measures 53" wide across the seat back. Measures 47" across the interior at the steering wheel. The car measures 16' 5" long and carries two people comfortably. But the luggage space! Quote
Young Ed Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 I wonder what the 39-47 trucks measure. FYI no column shifts in pickups yet. That was still a few years away. Quote
WatchingWolf Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 back to the muffler issue..... I am currently sporting the Tomato Juice can with the ends cut out and then sliced up the side, held in place with 3 large worm gear (hose type) clamps on my Dakota work truck.....should hold til spring. Quote
Young Ed Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 FYI I just put a new muffler and tailpipe on my dakota. All the parts are easily available(i got mine at napa) and atleast on my truck the muffler wasn't welded to the other pieces. They even have that special hanger that incorporates a clamp. Being in WI yours is probably rusted away like mine was. Quote
41/53dodges Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 I wonder what the 39-47 trucks measure. FYI no column shifts in pickups yet. That was still a few years away. i dunno about 39-47, the 41' is 250 miles away, but the 53' is about 58" door to door, with the column shifter. Quote
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