bamfordsgarage Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 I am ordering parts this week for the complete brake overhaul on my 1947 Canadian D24. Seven cylinders, hoses, shocks, rear seals, shoes. Have looked locally, eBay and online. RockAuto in WI seems to have the best selection and lowest overall cost even factoring in freight to Canada, and I was impressed by their website and e-catalog. Our local NAPA was way high on several items, like their $382.49 master cylinder! Can anyone suggest another parts supplier to compare with RockAuto? Also, have not found a source for re-lined shoes (which can also be done locally) — any suggestions for these? Thanks. The photos are my car in 1953 and 1971 with the original owners, and again in 2008 in the Nevada desert. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 Hi. Thanks for the pictures......pretty cool. I don't know of any place that would be any better or cheper than Rock Auto. I think I paid about $285 or so for a new master cylinder from a truck brake outfit several months ago. My son in law just bought a fuel pump from Rock - the cost was reasonable and a couple things about it were even better than he expected. I see the Dodge had a bug screen on the front at one time. You don't see those much nowadays. Quote
RobertKB Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 Nice looking car and great pictures. However, I believe you are driving the Canadian made Dodge D25 which is based on the Plymouth body. There were a few D24's built in Canada but the majority were the D25. The fender line continues into the door on the D24 but does not on the D25. There are a few other differences as well like the rear tail lights and brake light and the hood on a D24 is butterfly not the alligator type of the D25. I own a D25 so am virtually positive that is what you have. Quote
desoto1939 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 As for your question on brake lining. Do you have the old style riveted lining or bonded ont he car? You can buy riverted lining on Ebay and then I think you would use a brass flat rivet 4-5. I have done several sets for my 39 Desoto with the riveted lining. I like the rivet tool that has the screw type to crimp the rivet. i do not like the punch style because you are hitting the rivet and this can cause the lining to break. Witht he screw type you can slowly crimp the rivet over and not damage the lining. You can get rivet from Big Flat rivets in NY state. They run around 25 cents each the tool will run about $25. You can do a set of brake shoes in under 1 hour and it another job that is fun to do. Write to me and I will sen you pictures of the tool and the address. You will also need to c clamps to hold the lining flat on the shoe. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 20, 2010 Report Posted May 20, 2010 Very Cool pics, and the car is great. How about some History, I see your from Edmonton, the car is a Canuck D24, but your driving it in Nevada in 2008. Thta is a lot of miles from Edmonton, did you drive it there, or buy it from there........Fred PS who are the folks in the pic, where was the car bought new..... The photos are my car in 1953 and 1971 with the original owners, and again in 2008 in the Nevada desert. Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) Thanks all for your replies... RobertKB: You're right, of course, my car is a D25. Sometimes I make the silliest misstaeakes. Yours is a fine looking car indeed. desoto39: that is an intriguing idea... I have riveted older-style woven linings for Model T bands and similar. Perhaps you could post contact info and a photo of the tool? Rockwood: I bought the car in Edmonton in 1992 (private deal following an unsuccessful auction) from the second owner, the son of the Ford dealer in Rockglen, SK who took the Dodge on trade in 1975 from the couple in the photos. Apparently the dealer allowed $1,000 trade-in on a new Ford pickup, painted the Dodge and gave it to his son. I haven't got the names of the original owners handy but they were farmers in southern Saskatchewan. It is interesting to see how the man of the house changed little over 18 years... same hat style, trousers, posture etc. We were in Nevada in 2008 whilst traveling from Wyoming to San Francisco with a group of vintage cars re-tracing the US portion of the 1908 New York to Paris race. We found out too late to get to NY for the start, but connected with them in Cheyenne and finished the tour in SF 10 days later. Click on www.longestautoracecent.com for more info, the look-at-photos button is almost unnoticeable at the lower left. We covered 5,500 miles that trip at an average of 19.8 mpg (Canadian gallon). The only problems were one flat tire, one discombobulated generator, and a squeaky throwout bearing. This year we plan to drive the old gal to Hershey. Edited May 21, 2010 by bamfordsgarage Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 21, 2010 Report Posted May 21, 2010 Let me know if you are comming through Winnipeg on the way to Penn, can meet up for coffee...............Fred Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Posted May 21, 2010 Thanks for the invite, that would be fun. However we plan to cross the border at Rockglen, SK south of Moose Jaw and continue south to Mt Rushmore before turning east. We are taking a different route back. The plan is to visit Washington after Hershey and find a friendly winter parking spot for the Dodge. We would return in March to carry on to Chicasha, OK for their great pre-war swap meet. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 21, 2010 Report Posted May 21, 2010 Thanks for the invite, that would be fun. However we plan to cross the border at Rockglen, SK south of Moose Jaw and continue south to Mt Rushmore before turning east.We are taking a different route back. The plan is to visit Washington after Hershey and find a friendly winter parking spot for the Dodge. We would return in March to carry on to Chicasha, OK for their great pre-war swap meet. Thats is awsome, what great road trip, and to think of it, I am too chicken to drive 450 miles to the "Back to the 50s Car Show" in St Paul Mn. Is your engine and drivetrain rebult, do you have a 3spd trans or OD trans, what gearing does the diff have. Those Eastern USA freeways will be mighty busy, how fast do you cruise? I havea 3 spd trans, and 3.73 in my 47 Chrysler Coupe, usually drive around 55 mph, she is not rebuilt, a decent running flathead 6 from a 1951 Canadian Dodge........Fred Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted May 22, 2010 Author Report Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) That's a nice looking coupe. The colour really suits it. The car looks high miles, but is under 80K in 63 years and I think the engine has never been apart. I never drove far for the first 15 years. The engine burns a bit of oil, but the oil pressure is decent and runs quiet. I'm in no hurry to open it up. I'm on the waiting list for an O/D transmission from George Asche, which will go in before the next big trip. Right now, the engine is comfortable cruising 50-55 mph and we'd like 65 or 70. Too chicken to drive 450 miles? Relax! Think of all the fun you could have on a road trip and if worst comes to worst the Auto Club hauls you home at a reduced rate. We run the car like a 5 or 10 year old used car... regular maintenance, monthly baths and no particular babying. Nobody's going to get bent out of shape over a few scratches or some rust out on a 10 year old Dodge. This approach doesn't work for everybody but it sure suits me fine. Here's a few more pics from our '08 road trip: 1. On the original route along a now-closed portion of the Lincoln Highway running beside the UP mainline in Wyoming; 2. On a brief detour to the Bonneville Salt Flats near Wendover UT; 3. Following the original 1908 route as close as possible through the Utah Desert north of the Great Salt Lake; 4. Along the Oregon coast in flood country (check the high-water mark on the sign.) Edited May 22, 2010 by bamfordsgarage Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 22, 2010 Report Posted May 22, 2010 Very cool pics, That looks awesome seeing those Alberta plates on a 47 Dodge in the Desert, and especially at Bonneville. oh someday, my old girl will make it's way to the southwest too..........Fred Quote
BeBop138 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Posted May 22, 2010 Thats is awsome, what great road trip, and to think of it, I am too chicken to drive 450 miles to the "Back to the 50s Car Show" in St Paul Mn.Is your engine and drivetrain rebult, do you have a 3spd trans or OD trans, what gearing does the diff have. Those Eastern USA freeways will be mighty busy, how fast do you cruise? I havea 3 spd trans, and 3.73 in my 47 Chrysler Coupe, usually drive around 55 mph, she is not rebuilt, a decent running flathead 6 from a 1951 Canadian Dodge........Fred Fred, come on down---would love to see ya at Back to the Fifties---plenty of us will be there---she would make it......Lee Quote
Don Coatney Posted May 23, 2010 Report Posted May 23, 2010 The plan is to visit Washington after Hershey and find a friendly winter parking spot for the Dodge. We would return in March to carry on to Chicasha, OK for their great pre-war swap meet. Contact forum member Rodney Bullock. He lives a stones throw from DC and he may have room to store you car for the winter. It is good to see an old car driven not trailored. On your way to Hershey stop and visit with George Asche. He lives a bit east of Pittsburg. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted May 23, 2010 Report Posted May 23, 2010 You might to try this place in Minneapolis. It has been a long time since I went there, but they had the shoes for my 48 Ply on the the shelf. www.brakeplace.com Quote
JoelOkie Posted May 23, 2010 Report Posted May 23, 2010 As for your question on brake lining. Do you have the old style riveted lining or bonded ont he car?You can buy riverted lining on Ebay and then I think you would use a brass flat rivet 4-5. I have done several sets for my 39 Desoto with the riveted lining. I like the rivet tool that has the screw type to crimp the rivet. i do not like the punch style because you are hitting the rivet and this can cause the lining to break. Witht he screw type you can slowly crimp the rivet over and not damage the lining. You can get rivet from Big Flat rivets in NY state. They run around 25 cents each the tool will run about $25. You can do a set of brake shoes in under 1 hour and it another job that is fun to do. Write to me and I will sen you pictures of the tool and the address. You will also need to c clamps to hold the lining flat on the shoe. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com If you need linings in a hurry 70's era Chevy drum brake shoe linings work on a P-15. I bought a set and drilled the rivets out to remove them from the shoes and used them to re-line the shoes of a 48 Plymouth I previously owned. Joel Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 24, 2010 Report Posted May 24, 2010 Contact forum member Rodney Bullock. He lives a stones throw from DC and he may have room to store you car for the winter. It is good to see an old car driven not trailored. On your way to Hershey stop and visit with George Asche. He lives a bit east of Pittsburg. I think he might have Florida or the Texas Gulf area in mind Don, up north at Rodneys it will be snowin, just like old Tennesee..........LOL Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 24, 2010 Report Posted May 24, 2010 Fred, come on down---would love to see ya at Back to the Fifties---plenty of us will be there---she would make it......Lee Lee thanx for the invite, and it's mighty tempting, but will shoot for next year. I need to get my diff leaks fixed, and new tires, before a longer journey, and a few other small itmes, then she should be good to go, I think...... Quote
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