looking for a mtached set of a connecting rods

[Rollie���]

Pete's website (which I found on my own) is what inspired me to do the 218 to 230 conversion.

[michael.warshaw]

what is the website? do you have the web adress?

[Rollie���]

Search the forum for Pete or Blueskies, then you'll find it.

let me know.

[Captain Neon]

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/member.php?u=41

[michael.warshaw]

got it thanks to everyone who helped me get my project in the right direction. blueskies has a beautiful car, i admire you work, great work love the car thanks to everyone i am on the right track now, g-d bless everyone happy new year.

Edited January 10, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[greg g]

Objection!!!!

Asked and answered.

Pete has posted several responses to this thread with his links imbedded on his post pages.

Will hizoner please direct counselor to review his notes, and the transcripts.

May we have a short recess in order that he may do so?

So ordered! Insert gavel noise here

We can reconvene on Monday.

I will go stand in the corner now.

[michael.warshaw]

court is adjourned

[james curl]

Michael, here is Petes web site http://www.50plymouth.com/, it is one of the best web sites on old MoPars around.

[michael.warshaw]

Michael, here is Petes web site http://www.50plymouth.com/, it is one of the best web sites on old MoPars around.

yes i was on it, i just need to find a tranny with od, how does od work, does od automatically engage or do oyu press a switch?

[Don Coatney]

yes i was on it, i just need to find a tranny with od, how does od work, does od automatically engage or do oyu press a switch?

What did my good friend George Asche tell you?

[greg g]

I thought we were in recess!!!!!

[michael.warshaw]

What did my good friend George Asche tell you?

sounded like a very nice guy, he knows so much about this it really amazing. he said go with 230 vs 218 faster and more power, and he said i should change the cam too, and i should get the od tranny. only problm is he doesant have any for sale.

[Young Ed]

sounds about like what we said. your best bet to find an OD is to watch ebay for one.

[michael.warshaw]

on ebay wat s th title they ussually go under, and what should i expect to pay for one?

[Andydodge]

Michael, one of the problems now is that original Mopar Overdrives whether Dodge,Plymouth or whatever are getting hard to find because poeple who are rebuilding their cars realise that an overdrive trans offers the chance to be able to drive their car without reving the guts out of it, these old 6's weren't made for 70mph freeway trips so the overdrives are becoming very popular and conversely harder to find........which is why some of us are switching to the T5 gearbox, especially those from the Chev S10 pickup which having a front mounted shifter allows it to be used in a car with a bench front seat......and it is a 5speed with an overdrive gear that drops the revs in top gear by at least 500-700rpm......and everything to do with the operation of the overdrive is contained within the gearbox......no extra electrics etc that the original mopar o/d trans had..........lol.........we'll make a hotrodder out of you yet........lol.......only kidding......andyd

[michael.warshaw]

Michael, one of the problems now is that original Mopar Overdrives whether Dodge,Plymouth or whatever are getting hard to find because poeple who are rebuilding their cars realise that an overdrive trans offers the chance to be able to drive their car without reving the guts out of it, these old 6's weren't made for 70mph freeway trips so the overdrives are becoming very popular and conversely harder to find........which is why some of us are switching to the T5 gearbox, especially those from the Chev S10 pickup which having a front mounted shifter allows it to be used in a car with a bench front seat......and it is a 5speed with an overdrive gear that drops the revs in top gear by at least 500-700rpm......and everything to do with the operation of the overdrive is contained within the gearbox......no extra electrics etc that the original mopar o/d trans had..........lol.........we'll make a hotrodder out of you yet........lol.......only kidding......andyd

origanaly i was going for oem look, but if i cant drive the car on the parkway at 65 comfortably wahts the sence in that i need that od tranny. you make a good point, with the t5, then you dont have three on the tree, that s the only down side to me.

[Jim Saraceno]

Let me run this by you guys...

I would think the more cubes are only part of the equation. The extra displacement will only equate to power if it is aspirated properly.

If you have a 230 with the carb and exhaust for the 218, you are not going to get as much power.

It seems to me, in the past, it's been stated the easiest way to get extra power is duel carbs and exhaust.

I think Mike is standing on a very slippery slope. To convert to a 230 he needs a new crank, rods, possibly flywheel, then to fully utilize that extra ci, he needs duel carbs and exhaust, split manifolds then he's talking about an overdirve transmission. The list never stops. It sounds like he already has a matched set of rods that will be useless if he presses forward with the 230.

Please let me know if what I'm saying is not valid. I'm on the low end of the knowledge base here.

Mike, my advice to you is to think long and hard about what you want before you take another step.

[Niel Hoback]

My 218 was converted by the PO to a 230. Trust me, you don't NEED more carbs and more exhaust. It would be nice, but not really needed. You can tell the difference in a 218 and a 230 easily, it has 15-20% more power just as it is.

I did find an improvement in performance by changing the main jet to one from a 230 carb. But really, who's gonna know that from looking?

If you want stock looks and more free power, make a 230.

[Young Ed]

Right I agree plently of 230s from the factory with single exhaust and carb.

[michael.warshaw]

im going 230, i was not going to but now that im trying to locate a od tranny, since the stock unit wont handle 65 on the highway its worthless for me not to have the extra power. so it was 218 and stock tranny but its useless if the motor will be staining at higher speeds

so im going all out and 230 and od tranny

on a side note 150 posts is this a record?

Edited January 11, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[Young Ed]

I think a 350 would get you going highway speeds.

[greg g]

So I guess with my roundtrips to Vermont, 700+ miles, North Carolina, 1500+miles, Virginia, 900+miles, Detroit 1200+ miles, all without OD, a 4.11 rear end, and all at highway speeds I should be expecting an emminant self immolation of my engine? Factor in my other trips of 100 or more miles to attend regional events, and I am living on the edge.

What types of trips are you planning on? What engine speed do you consider to be detremental? Is there a way to know how many rpms your engine will be turning at the speeds you want to travel?

This is a mile uphill, check the clock and do the math to figure the speed. Calculates to 3120 RPM's with my gears and tires. And yes its a 230, gas pedal about 1/3 of the way to the floor.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6zgoo_mvi0362_auto

[michael.warshaw]

im looking to do 65 75 on the long island expressway.

[greg g]

Better think about upgrading brakes then, probably more of a worry than the engine for short trips on the LIE or Sunrise Hwy.

And you might want to think about better rear lighting based on what I remember of drivers maners in that environment.

How come you never answer my questions? You clam up like a hostile witness under cross examination.

[michael.warshaw]

Better think about upgrading brakes then, probably more of a worry than the engine for short trips on the LIE or Sunrise Hwy.

And you might want to think about better rear lighting based on what I remember of drivers maners in that environment.

How come you never answer my questions? You clam up like a hostile witness under cross examination.

i know i need to work on all this, i think my brakes wil lbe able to handle it, i got all new hardware for the brakes.