Fluid drive carb parts

[Jims50chrysler]

Ok I did not take this apart..I had a friend with a carb bath take it apart and dunk it for me then when I had troubles getting the right kit for this carb I collected a coffee tin full of fluid drive carb anyway, I am not sure if a practical joke is being played on me or what but some of these parts don't look like they belong. anyone know where the parts in the first pic go?

also when I recieved my kit I recieved a new dashpot? surely they don't expect a fella to undo the crimp on the plunger to install it....do they??

thanks

Jim

[JIPJOBXX]

What is the model of the carberator? I have a friend who might be able to help you out as he sell carberator part.

[Dodgeb4ya]

The 1949-50 Chrysler shop manual shows where these carter carb kick down parts go and the anti-stall plunger and spring. Kinda hard to describe unless by pictures! I don't have a scanner that does a good job scanning pages clearly.

The Carter carb model is a E7L1 or-2-3-4. Basically all the same.

Bob

[Merle Coggins]

The plunger you show looks like the one in my DTG1 carb on my truck (with fluid drive) The plunger is shown near the bottom of this picture.

It is connected to the throttle linkage so that it tries to depress the plunger when returning to idle.

And there's a screw in the top cover over the top of that plunger, to adjust it's stroke.

I realize that my DTG1 may be different than yours, but that plunger looks the same. The other pieces looks like the main jet / needle jet and accel pump jet parts.

Merle

[James_Douglas]

Jim,

If you like I can give you a call and walk you through it. I have at least a 1/2 dozen of those carbs and have rebuilt them several times.

I also have the full Carter book with the specification sheets. If you tell me the model number I can look it up for you.

As to the accelerator pump plunger, yes, to put on the "good" leather glands you have use a small punch and hammer up (un-press) the end...take off the bottom plate...replace the leather...then hammer/solder the end back on. I have done this several times it is not that hard. I have gotten in kits the fake leather ones that are all done and the don't last that long.

Best, James

[Jims50chrysler]

I have the carb reassembled as in the pics that merle posted but still have left over parts as in my pic 1. As said in my first post this could be a practical joke that my friend is playing on me as he owes me several .

my question is do any of the remaining parts look like they belong in my carb I think not as there really is no place to put them.

As far as the plunger goes I just wanted to make sure I needed to do that before I attempted it.

Thanks for the offer James and I will take you up on that if it goes on for any length of time but for right now I will soldier on.

DodgeB4ya apparently it will be easyier to just keep guessing at how to reassemble the carb then to find my manual

I belive the model # is E7L1

Jim

[Dodgeb4ya]

Jim, I have uploaded several assembly pictures of the Carter Fluid Drive carb parts you need help on in the mechanical photo gallery section. Hope the pictures show enough detail / locations and answer your questions.

Bob

Edited July 12, 2009 by Dodgeb4ya

[Jims50chrysler]

Ohhh, I guess they are not spare parts a pic is worth 1000 words I should be able to get that put together tomorrow night.

The only difference that I see is my anti-stall plunger is closed in like the one in Merle's first pic.

Thanks a ton dodgeb4ya

Jim

[Jims50chrysler]

Don't give up on me now....only 2 more springs to go.

the arrows indicate where I have springs already but where in the world do these other 2 go?

Thanks a bunch

Jim

[Normspeed]

Jim, the small one looks like a replacement for the one that goes on the idle mixture screw.

[Jims50chrysler]

Thats what I thought but I have one there already:confused:

Jim

[Merle Coggins]

The smaller one does look like it belongs on an adjustment screw. Since you noted that there is one on the idle mixture screw, the only other one I can think of is in the anti stall adjustment screw on the top cover. See my 4th pic above.

The larger one looks like it would be for the accel pump, but you also show that there's one in there too. I don't remember positively, but I think there was a spring under the anti-stall plunger that pushes it up. The linkage then pushes it back down at idle.

Merle

[Plymouthy Adams]

the larger could very well be the spring on the accelerator pump shaft...

[Jims50chrysler]

Hi Merle:

I don't have an anti stall adjustment screw on mine there is a place in the casting where there could be one however it is not a through hole therefore could not adjust anything.

I could buy into the theroy that the larger spring goes under the anti-stall plunger...makes sence.

Thanks Jim

[Merle Coggins]

How about an idle speed adjustment screw? Should there be a spring on it?

[Dodgeb4ya]

A tapered heavier spring is used on the accelerator pump. No spring is used on the dashpot pump.

Here's another pic out of the 1950 Chrysler shop manual.

Bob

[Jims50chrysler]

OK the small spring now has a home but the large spring baffels me as the exploded view only shows the one larger spring in the whole carb I guess it could have been left over from my parts carb. stranger things have happened.

thanks to everyone on this forum for your help I am now driving the car in and out of the shop a couple times a week with the first rebuilt carb to sweep up... nothing inspires me more to work on the car more than a clean shop.

Jim