dezeldoc Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 :pHey..I say let him...be just like everyone else...cookie cutter class...no disticntion from the other joe-blow..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyciccotelli Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hey..I say let him...be just like everyone else...cookie cutter class...no disticntion from the other joe-blow..... Im not building it to reinvent the wheel. Im building it cause that is how my father and i want it. it has nothing to do with whats popular. at the end of the day I am the only one driving it and paying the bills for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) Im not building it to reinvent the wheel. Im building it cause that is how my father and i want it. it has nothing to do with whats popular. at the end of the day I am the only one driving it and paying the bills for it. Thats true! but come resale time it will go for more with a mopar in it, chevy guys ain't gonna buy it cause it is a mopar and a mopar guy won't because it has a chevy in it. I don't see the point of putting a chevy in it, it's no cheaper to do than a mopar and they are harder to put in than a mopar. pay no attention to norm his nickname is Mr. Deep pockets! Just do as you feel you want to do just do it safely!! Edited May 17, 2009 by dezeldoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolliejoe Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Don't ruin a good Mopar by putting chevy stuff on it, seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 when looking at cars usually listed on the bay or c-list..when I see chevy or 350...it is an automatic close window..next search..I like my milk pasturized and homoginized but damn if I want anything 2% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Don't ruin a good Mopar by putting chevy stuff on it, seriously. True words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 when looking at cars usually listed on the bay or c-list..when I see chevy or 350...it is an automatic close window..next search..I like my milk pasturized and homoginized but damn if I want anything 2% Agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Thats true! but come resale time it will go for more with a mopar in it, chevy guys ain't gonna buy it cause it is a mopar and a mopar guy won't because it has a chevy in it. I don't see the point of putting a chevy in it, it's no cheaper to do than a mopar and they are harder to put in than a mopar. pay no attention to norm his nick name is Mr. Deep pockets! Just do as you feel you want to do just do it safely!! Words of wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyciccotelli Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 when looking at cars usually listed on the bay or c-list..when I see chevy or 350...it is an automatic close window..next search..I like my milk pasturized and homoginized but damn if I want anything 2% I understand where you are coming from but untill u pay for my restoration will i take what u say to heart. In the end its my car and i will do what i want to it and enjoy it every step it takes to restore it with my father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackster Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I understand where you are coming from but untill u pay for my restoration will i take what u say to heart. In the end its my car and i will do what i want to it and enjoy it every step it takes to restore it with my father. Tony, as you already know, they are just trying to steer you in the right way. I have had my chance to do things the right way or however else I see fit. (sometimes I am wrong and sometimes I come up on top) moral of this boring story is do what you want,but understand that this guys know what they are talking about and will try to steer you the best possible way they see it fit. I agree with them. I believe in what you want to do. I wouldnt do it. . .but you can do what you want. tell us how it turns out. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old woolie Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I understand where you are coming from but untill u pay for my restoration will i take what u say to heart. In the end its my car and i will do what i want to it and enjoy it every step it takes to restore it with my father. A restoration and what you are planning are two completly different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnoub1948 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Tony: I have to chime in here: You really can't expect to come to a MOPAR forum and talk about Camaro clips and Chevy BB's and get much sympathy, or as much help as you would otherwise. You might want to try the H.A.M.B. for more advice. But beware, they have their own very DISTINCT opinions there too. Hotrodders forum is a good place too. On my suggestion, a friend used a Jim Weimer Garage IFS setup. They cost about $1,600 and are engineered for your car. Looks good to me for a clip deal. But, I'm like most of the other guys here and am updating my stock suspension. All in all, it looks like I'll save maybe $400 doing that. Big deal. But for me, it's not about the savings. It's getting what I'm after - - stopping and handling better - - and not chopping up the car. If you want, I can send you a pic of his clip install. Fatman's are $1,000 more. And yes, you can go to the yard and get a Camaro clip and then spend forever trying to get it to fit and make the car look right. I guess it's cash up front vs time and results. I was racing Corvettes until I crashed a couple of years back; and my ex was tracking her Camaro. I can tell you a Camaro is a straight line car only. Her's was a '98 the last generation. An '81 is not all that great as far as handling. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION: - Use an engineered modern clip. They're not that expensive and are engineered for you car. It will handle better than a Camaro clip and you'll be able to get the parts back on a without a ton of fabrication work. AND MY FINAL .02 CENTS: I think most of here are kinda bored with Chevy stuff. That's why we're working on MOPARS. I have plenty of Chevy stuff. I have an LS6 in the garage. I just can't seem to put into my De Soto. And the local Sunday cruise that I am about to visit will have 100 Chevy this and that's and maybe 2 MOPARS. It's your car and you SHOULD do what you want. No one should tell you otherwise. But, FOR ME, it's nice to differ from the herd from time to time. Good luck with your car and I'll shut up now. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Why didn't you just get one of these instead? They are plentiful and that way you won't ruin a good car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwillard Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 On one hand we say differ from the herd and on the other if you do you are slammed for it. Do it your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 again..just do be careful at the position of the clip as the style of the frames are so different the looks of the wheel opening will suffer greatly..I have seen to many done with this being an after thought and have seen a few that were compensated for in the grafting and the profile look normal... do consider the changes in steering. this will require a modified original column or the installing of a modern cloumn...brakes..swing pedal or staying stock. clipping a front frame section is only a very small portion of getting the car back on the road and on the road safely..changing one thing on a car often runs into a manyfold corrections to other parts fo the car for it to work/interact properly..also this is a route of no return..do overs is costly...done wrong can be ternimal to the project or yourself..be careful..have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnoub1948 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Frankie, I like that Chevy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Guy' date='Lets face it. When it comes to modifications, I'd wager the majority of us have modified our cars or trucks in some way. And, I'm also guilty of doing a few modifications myself. I think what happens is. We buy an old car because we think they are neat and would be fun to tool around in. Then after we get it, we decide we want to upgrade this or that for a better ride, and/or for more comfort. Even down to the tires we ride on. Then we turn right around and blast someone else for making the modifications. Now, I and others get blasted if we suggest putting a Chevy or Ford engine in our cars because it's not a Mopar engine. Yet, on the other hand we have someone like Don Coatney who puts a DeSoto 6 engine in his car, then a 60's Mopar rearend in the back of that. Agreed that is all Mopar. But..........what did that thing called a T5 transmission sitting in the middle of the Mopar engine and rearend originally made to go into? Did we blast him for that. I haven't heard anyone doing that, just praise. Not blasting Don or anyone else on this one, but it's not totally a Mopar in a Mopar after all, is it? Just making a point. By the way, Don's transmission does work good, I've seen it work in person. Bottom line. We all must do what we want with our own cars. As Tony points out, his father is footing the bill, not us. His father also bought and owns the car, not us. So.........if he makes the car worth more or less, it's his loss or gain, not ours.[/quote'] maybe because we realized we made mistakes and don't want to see someone else make the same mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatS.... Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I've never bought into the all the same make theory. Most of the time, it's use what you have or what you can get a great deal on. To me, once you start to modify, it matters that it's done right and safe, not which factory the part came from originally. If I got a great deal on an AMC 304 just rebuilt, I would use it, because it's a great deal, it's a decent engine and it's different. If I got a great deal on a SBC, I wouldn't hesitate to use it. Cookie cutter? Maybe, but a great all around reliable and powerful engine that will last. There IS a reason they are so popular. Besides, I LIKE cookies!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I've never bought into the all the same make theory. Most of the time, it's use what you have or what you can get a great deal on.To me, once you start to modify, it matters that it's done right and safe, not which factory the part came from originally. If I got a great deal on an AMC 304 just rebuilt, I would use it, because it's a great deal, it's a decent engine and it's different. If I got a great deal on a SBC, I wouldn't hesitate to use it. Cookie cutter? Maybe, but a great all around reliable and powerful engine that will last. There IS a reason they are so popular. Besides, I LIKE cookies!!!! I've said it before their isn't a chevy i am afraid of, dollar for dollar i can get more hp out of the mopar than the chevy, the amc would be the step child of ma mopar as they owned them. i used to be mister gm till i got my first mopar and reliazed the potential. i have a friend that has a cyl head and motor building shop, and in his early years he used to knock my mopars till he got to building a few, now he is one of the top max wedge builders! by the way their are more mopars out there with way more miles on them than their are gm. i could write ya a book on the advancements of chrysler and how far they were ahead of the others. this thread is going nowhere but it is a fun one to piss about! Carry on Tony, pay no attention to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatS.... Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 the amc would be the step child of ma mopar as they owned them. this thread is going nowhere but it is a fun one to piss about!Carry on Tony, pay no attention to us! So, does that mean I could use a Buick drive train and still be OK??, after all, Walter P. was head of Buick for a while;):eek: As I said, money, or lack of same, is usually behind my choices:( How about a 3 cylinder Perkins diesel??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 How about a 3 cylinder Perkins diesel??? only if it is hooked to a six speed nv5600! if it makes soot and sounds like all the rods are gonna let loose it is golden!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Tony I think what the guys are really trying to drive home here is that you can have a car that handles just as well has the same power steering etc still do the BBC without chopping the frame. And you'll end up with less work cheaper parts and a safer car by leaving the frame intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Aw come on Ed don't ruin the fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hey I said he could have the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Look at the thread for info! second post:p http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/showthread.php?t=15525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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