PatS.... Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Mr Bush is gracing our city tomorrow (Tuesday March 17/09) for his first speech since leaving the White House. He must consider Canada a safe place for him to visit... I'm kinda bummed out because we don't get to watch the two 747's come in for a landing like the last time he was here:( I can see the planes coming in to land from my front yard:D It was a very cool sight to see Air Force One, even though I didn't really know which was the decoy and which one he was actually on last time. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5ji6AR-AcL5lrm2LQ5QvDuNtj-O3A Quote
47heaven Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Mr Bush is gracing our city tomorrow (Tuesday March 17/09) for his first speech since leaving the White House. He must consider Canada a safe place for him to visit... I'm kinda bummed out because we don't get to watch the two 747's come in for a landing like the last time he was here:( I can see the planes coming in to land from my front yard:D It was a very cool sight to see Air Force One, even though I didn't really know which was the decoy and which one he was actually on last time. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5ji6AR-AcL5lrm2LQ5QvDuNtj-O3A Mmmmm...beter there than here. I would figure that he would have taken up refuge in Mexico, since he catered to that country so much. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Mmmmm...beter there than here. I would figure that he would have taken up refuge in Mexico, since he catered to that country so much. And that's as it should be. Mexico is just like Canada. It sits right on our border and you can just walk across almost anywhere on those borders. So........we need to have a good relationship with both. The difference between the two is their economy's. Canada is on a par with our economy (or they are real close one way or another). Mexico's economy is not so good. We need to help Mexico get their economy on a par with the US and Canada. That would stop the flow of illegal immigrants across the border in mass. If Mexico had a strong economy, good housing, etc. they would not want to immigrate here, and it would cut down on the drug traffic across the border because they would then have good law enforcement, in Mexico. This is the real reason for Bush's policy on Mexico, and it should be continued. It not only makes Mexico more secure, but also the US. Just read the latest news about the open killing done in the drug wars, right on our border. It's getting so bad that we are actually talking about stationing combat troops along the US/Mexican border, to keep the war out of the US. Not trying to be political here, just stating the facts as they are. Quote
greg g Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Whats the penalty in Canada for tossing shoes???? See if he is still as good at ducking stuff as he was when he was in office. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 how many of you have actually sat and talked with a president and or a vice president...trust me. even if you do not have regard for his policies or party..they still should be treated with high regard and respect for the office for which they have occupied, standing or past...been there..done that..both offices... Quote
randroid Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Gents, I agree heartily with Norm's Coupe, but there's a factor in the equation he missed, and that's 'Mordita', which translates as 'little death'. Begun by Maximillion in the early 1800's in retaliation against the Mexican people for the ten years he was forced by the French government for needing to be Emperor of a place he openly despised, it translates into bribes. So deeply engrained is this system that in many parts of the country it is considered above-board and legal. Everyone knows it holds back their economy and everyone openly wants it gone, but if one person stops accepting it then all people must stop accepting it, and that's not going to happen anywhere, not even in the good old US of A where, after having their butts saved by taxpayer's money, AIG announced openly they were going to hand out $165,000,000 in bonuses to the very people who engineered their failure. I want to assist the Mexican people and government in any way we can, but it would require a much different strategy than what might be used if trying to do the same for Canada (where they're handling things well but this is just an example). It will be interesting to see how this new administration will handle it. -Randy Quote
PatS.... Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Posted March 16, 2009 Whats the penalty in Canada for tossing shoes???? See if he is still as good at ducking stuff as he was when he was in office. There wouldn't be many shoes right now, just mukluks and rubber boots!!! We are too respectful to do that, anyway. We're Canadian, EH? Quote
Don Coatney Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 how many of you have actually sat and talked with a president and or a vice president...... Tim; Once, when I was living in California, I was working with a guy who was not rowing with both oars. After a very brief conversation he informed me that he was the Vice President of a local motorcycle club. Does this count??? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 well Don, if he is wearing colors and has a few of his buds in tow..you bet it counts... Quote
RobertKB Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 how many of you have actually sat and talked with a president and or a vice president...trust me. even if you do not have regard for his policies or party..they still should be treated with high regard and respect for the office for which they have occupied, standing or past...been there..done that..both offices... Agree and disagree. Yes, the office should be respected no matter what the politics.....although it is fine to strongly, yet respectfully, present your opposing opinion. That is what democracies are about. Not so sure about showing respect once they are out of office. They make their bed and they have to lie in it. There are retired politicians I would not cross the street to see and I would not shake their hand if I met them because I think they were/are genuine ass****s. This is not aimed at any politician in particular, but politicians in general.....local, provincial, state, federal. Quote
Captain Neon Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 I've never met a former US President, but I did briefly meet Dan Quayle. Not nearly as dumb as he's portrayed by the media. Actually he's quite intelligent, a far cry from his successor that so many people claimed was nearly a genius by 2000. Now the VP from 1993 to 2001, not a sharp guy. Again, I don't intend to get political, but people are who they are despite the position they have attained. In politics, many times, it has little to do with any ability or due respect and every thing to do with being connected with the right people. I've been acquainted with a good handful of people that are now in Congress and even a Governor that was oft mentioned as a VP candidate for one of the majour parties. I can assure you that they are men that put their pants on one leg at a time, and owe SOMEBODY for where they are. Most are of average to below average intelligence. Politics is not an inexpensive proposition and there are people that can make or break a campaign easily through their influence. Most politicans are the smooth-talking puppets of the people that they owe for their positions. Just a fact. One cannot raise the millions of dollars necessary to run a successful Congressional race without owing favours to influential individuals and groups. Show me a principled candidate that truly intends to offer no favours and he is an underfunded independent or loses his primary handily. Most independent candidates are simply incompetent and are just as willing (if not moreso) to sell-out once elected. Voters like fancy advertisements and slick salesmanship. That is what wins elections. Long gone are the days when a man of ideas and principles can get elected to office. Quote
steveplym Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Most independent candidates are simply incompetent and are just as willing (if not moreso) to sell-out once elected. Voters like fancy advertisements and slick salesmanship. That is what wins elections. Long gone are the days when a man of ideas and principles can get elected to office. That unfortunately is why our country is in the shape it is in. Too many good campaigners in office, and no one with the smarts to know what to do. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 That unfortunately is why our country is in the shape it is in. Too many good campaigners in office, and no one with the smarts to know what to do. How true that is. But........at the same time, can you really blame anyone with the smarts to know what they are doing, run for office. Why should they? They usually already have a good position in life without the hassle of everyone looking over their shoulder criticizing every move they make. Not only that, but they must open up their personal life and finances to the public. I'm sorry, but I'd never run for any political position that required me to open up my personal business. That's why it's called personal. Not that we have anything to hide but that information is for me and my wife to know, not the public. Not even our own kids know what we have or where, except for material things that are out in the open everyday. They won't find that out until we are both gone. It's none of their business either until we're gone. Quote
Roadkingcoupe Posted March 17, 2009 Report Posted March 17, 2009 Interesting that George W. Bush is visiting OIL rich Alberta as his first trip to a "foreign" country . He broke the tradition of visiting Canada FIRST (went to Mexico instead) for his first presidential jaunt. Obama made his first stop in Canada as most recent Presidents have in the past. Alberta must be the closest to Texas we have in Canada....... Quote
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