Ripped off by a Forum member

[David Maxwell]

...the man I just restored a dashboard for, told me yesterday that his is only keeping the front portion of his 802. That's the dial face back a couple of inches. He is giving away or junking the remainder.

[later]

Wasn't me, I am very careful about what I buy online and prefer to buy or sell face to face. Kind of hard to do because of distances sometimes.

[daddyo23]

Wasn't me. I've been lucky so far, all my dealings on here have been good. But things like that are one of the reasons I got out of the tool business. I still believe in a handshake and try to take people at thier word, too bad alot of people don't anymore. Hope things work out Robin. Wayne P.

[Don Coatney]

Hey, I can't believe that everyone has missed this, we sort of got a confession out of Normspeed. I think that we should sentence him to chipping paint off of all the GM cars that people want painted for free. That would keep him busy, and he wouldn't have time to do it again. Tony C

Oh yeah it wasn't me.

Tony;

Were it Normspeed he would have tried to snipe this selling deal as he does not yet understand how sniping works:cool: He is not guilty even though he tried to get his 15 seconds of glory by confessing:D

[PatS....]

Not me...more fun to give stuff away

I hope it all works out, Robin.

[mackster]

Maybe we need to start a "MoPar mafia" to resolve worldwide problems/issues such as these. (oh wait, there is no such thing as the mafia)

It would be one thing to have sent the item, and have it not fit, but nothing exchanged hands except money.

Robin, how was this payment made? Not trying to be nosey, just maybe a path to resolution.

How can I join this non-existing mafia? DO I need to snuff someone? Normspeed I am looking your way! I am interested..... PM for details!!!!

[old woolie]

Wasn't me.I've had no dealings with anyone on here,but I would like to find a radio for my 51 Plodge. Don't care if it works,just has to look good.

[old woolie]

A Plodge is a Canadian Dodge. Dodge front clip and badges,all Plymouth from the cowl back.

[John Reddie]

It was not me. I have noticed that things that are acquired dishonestly or money that is acquired dishonestly sooner or later comes to no good.

John R

[FMSPEED49]

Not I.

[1949P17BC]

Scum is Scum so lets not hide from it. Who put the sc@3ws to you.

[Don Coatney]

I used to trade occasional e-mails with lowoil but have not done so for a while. Guess I need to shoot him one to see if he is still breathing.

[old woolie]

So, a Plym dash. I will watch for a radio with a decent face at the yard. You are about 1 1/2 years late with the request. A while back "lowoil" (we miss Lowell) on the old forum had one, and gave it to me. It was one of those 2 part ones with the dial and some tubes in the head, and then the power and some more tubes in another separate section. I wanted only the head to use in my 51 Dodge just to look nice. It turned out that it did not fit the cutout or knob spacing for my car. Put it on the bay and recovered my shipping expenses.

How pretty does it need to be??? May not see one, but I check out most of the MoPars at the yard and may locate one. Pretty much guaranteed not to be in working condition:D

The head would be all that I need and would have to be in very good to excellent condition. Thanks for looking.

[BobT-47P15]

T'wasn't me!

If the chrome is good on a radio, knobs OK, etc, it presume everyone

knows you can buy reproduction glass with the numbers silk screened

on. I purchased one from a fellow in Canada sometime back. Have not

yet installed it as the one I have is still fairly presentable. I see them on

ebay from time to time. Don't know who is making them.

[Don Coatney]

I used to trade occasional e-mails with lowoil but have not done so for a while. Guess I need to shoot him one to see if he is still breathing.

The e-mail I sent him bounced. Guess he has changed his e-mail address.

[claybill]

not me! .........claybill

[Robin (UK)]

Guys,

I've decided I can't sit back and be treated like this, so I've just sent another email to the 'seller'.

Body of message copied below.

I'll keep you posted on developments.

Robin.

Hi XXXXX,

Regarding the payment of $275 for the radio....

In the absence of a refund from you, or any reply, I posted a message on the P15-D24 Forum, to say that I think I've been ripped off.

Lots of the guys wanted me to identify who’d done it, but I was reluctant to do that.

However, having considered the situation, I think that would probably be the right thing to do.

I’m the victim, here – and I don’t see why I should sit back and accept the situation without any action.

I believe that the Forum, like all virtual communities, only works in an atmosphere of trust and it is everyone’s duty to warn others when the system is abused.

Maybe you’ve hit on hard times. Maybe there’s some other problem.

If there is, please let me know. I’m a very reasonable guy and I’ll be happy to help find a solution.

If I don’t hear from you within the next week, I’ll have to go ahead and publish.

I sincerely hope it doesn’t come to that.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Robin.

[Don Coatney]

Robin;

You are being more than fair in my book.

[Niel Hoback]

Robin, you are going out of your way to be fair by showing great character. Perhaps the "seller" will recognize how lucky he is to be dealing with a man of your fairness and will grow up and take responsibilty for his actions.

[55 Fargo]

Now, this gives this individual a Clear nessage and opportunity for redemption.

I hope the party comes clean, either refunds your money, explains the truth, or makes an arrangement to pay you.

You are being a fair man, a Gentleman actually, I hope this matter resolves itself promptly, and this forum can move beyond this situation................fred

[greg g]

Fair warning, good due process, and a valid consequence. Can't think of anything robin hasn't done. I think the extra week is generous. and from the 1397 views, probably 1396 are in your corner.

[Robin (UK)]

WOW!

I got a reply... see below.

The excuses are a bit lame, but if the refund is forthcoming I don't really care.

If any of you have received a message from the seller, please note that the stuff about re-stocking fees is ridiculous.

I sent the money on 15th May after being offered a Mopar 602.

After paying, it turned out to be a Mopar 800.

On 9th June I requested a refund.

On 16th June that was promised.

Since then, I've received no replies to emails, until today.

I have not rescinded on the original deal, and I resent the implication.

I too have kept all the email correspondence. I think he should be careful about trying to blacken my name.

This guy is starting to annoy me, now...

Let's just hope we can now put this whole sorry saga behind us.

I'll let everyone know when I receive the check.

Robin

The envelope with the check of $275 has been setting here at the house. The reason is I did not place a stamp on it and my wife had thought I was waiting for some reason.

As said before, I work away from this city. If I go to work and there is an problem of some sort, it means I will be there some more.

If you feel you need to let others know who I am, please send them my email address and I will forward them a copy of the emails so they may see the date/time line of this sagga.

It appears as if I made an "mistake" of trying to help you. That is OK. I have learned something.

Here is an copy of what I wrote to another today about this

"... I believe Robin has written a very good note on his emotioninal sagga of wanting to get a radio for his car.

What he has forgotten to say is the person with the radio informed him in a timely manner the radio was not a Model 802 as first thought.

He was also informed the person with the radio went to a family funneral during the same time and the seller worked at a job that is away from their home every 3 1/2 days of every week.

When Robin was sent a scan of the 800 radio ( Imperial, Chrysler, De Soto or Dodge face design un-known ) and it did not match his known design appearance of the face plate in his knowledge, he wanted his money back.

I had informed him very throughly of the radio, and I now wonder what a dealer would do if a special order was placed and the customer then wanted to change their mind. What is the going rate for re-stocking special order fees ???

Oh Yes, the radio is fully re-built with a new re-coned speaker.

For the last month I can not get on the P15-D24 site whenever I get back home. "

[PatS....]

"What is the going rate for re-stocking special order fees ???"

[BobT-47P15]

I would forget the "re-stocking fee" and just send back the money.

If the radio never left the place, what's to restock???

[dirty dan]

I would forget the "re-stocking fee" and just send back the money.

If the radio never left the place, what's to restock???

No kidding. Robin was sent a scan of the radio, said that isn't it, and simply wants his money refunded. Maybe Robin should have requested the scan before he sent his money...Big Deal. Why is this an issue with the seller?

I would expect better treatment from a forum member selling items.