Normspeed Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 You might recall that my rear bumper was so rusty that I just ground it clean, then primered and painted with Rustoleum rattle can metallic, in the black chrome color. It came out great, very nice prism type fine metallic in a black base. Loved the color but the look on my car wasn't quite what I wanted. Beginning last week I pulled the bumper off, wet sanded, and repainted with the same paint but in silver metallic. The final result looks a little like a powder coated bumper. Not sure if I like it better until I get it bolted back on the car. Just call me Rattle Can Man... Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Norm, Think I like the black best. However, before you repaint it again hang it on the car with a couple of bolts and see how it looks. Will probably look a lot better on the car than it does laying on the horses. You may like it better than the black then. Quote
Normspeed Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Posted May 16, 2008 Most of all I'd like good chrome but it ain't in the cards right now. I keep hoping to find a good used one for less than the cost of rechroming. I really like that black metallic, very nice when viewed up close in the sun. But I think a silver bumper, even a painted one, fits the lines of the car better. So far I've probably spent $40 on rattle cans from the start. Here's how the last repaint went: 1. Pull bumper, wet sand. 2. Shoot new silver metallic finish coat. 3. Notice dust mote in wet paint. carefully remove with a pin, destroying the surrounding paint. 4. Allow paint to dry, sand out the damage, prime, shoot second finish coat. 5. roll the bumper over on horses too soon damage fresh finish coat in two places. 6. Allow paint to dry, sand and prime damaged areas, allow paint to cure for a few days. 7. Wet sand it all with 400, wash it up, dry it, shoot another final coat (2 cans worth, one light and one wet coat) 8.Have a beer. Quote
Grandadeo Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 You might recall that my rear bumper was so rusty that I just ground it clean, then primered and painted with Rustoleum rattle can metallic, in the black chrome color. It came out great, very nice prism type fine metallic in a black base. Loved the color but the look on my car wasn't quite what I wanted. Beginning last week I pulled the bumper off, wet sanded, and repainted with the same paint but in silver metallic. The final result looks a little like a powder coated bumper. Not sure if I like it better until I get it bolted back on the car. Just call me Rattle Can Man... Does this mean that the Momad is now an official Rattle Rod? Your Pal Quote
dirty dan Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Most of all I'd like good chrome but it ain't in the cards right now. I keep hoping to find a good used one for less than the cost of rechroming. I really like that black metallic, very nice when viewed up close in the sun. But I think a silver bumper, even a painted one, fits the lines of the car better. So far I've probably spent $40 on rattle cans from the start. Here's how the last repaint went: 1. Pull bumper, wet sand. 2. Shoot new silver metallic finish coat. 3. Notice dust mote in wet paint. carefully remove with a pin, destroying the surrounding paint. 4. Allow paint to dry, sand out the damage, prime, shoot second finish coat. 5. roll the bumper over on horses too soon damage fresh finish coat in two places. 6. Allow paint to dry, sand and prime damaged areas, allow paint to cure for a few days. 7. Wet sand it all with 400, wash it up, dry it, shoot another final coat (2 cans worth, one light and one wet coat) 8.Have a beer. I've used that same "Mr. Patience" painting process for years! I've found it useful for ensuring that I end up with at least 5 coats of paint on any part regardless of how small that part may be. Quote
greg g Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Number 8 needs to be #1 and #4 as well as what would now be #10. By adding these critical steps, problems like #5 or similar can be mostly avoided, depending of course on how quickly you accomplish, those given tasks. If the new number 4 is also accomplished with have a sandwich, number 5 is leat likely to happen. so you can maybe skip a step or two before the former number 8. Just don't drive now till the next day. I am using the hammered finish rustoleum to paint up some trim parts on my Studie truck project. I might try the hammered silver fo its bumpers. I have used a bronze color on the dash board the windshield interior trim, tthe wheels, grille, and some of the trim pieces that were chrome. looks good and the texture means you don;t have to be extremely fussy with the prep. Quote
Tony Cipponeri Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Norm, I need to introduce you to Apolonio Barbosa, he does chrome and polishing, in Claremont. I am not sure what he charges today for chrome but he is the cheapest around and he gets it done now. He did mine for $300.00 each, on My Plymouth. Look how much you will save on getting rid of rattle cans Tony C Quote
38plymouth Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 You did all that work and only drank one beer? That's easily a six pack job. Quote
Heavy Flat Head Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Oh my: We must all be from the same tree. Ed. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted May 16, 2008 Report Posted May 16, 2008 Norm, I use to have similar problems painting. Now, I just paint the part then won't touch it for a day or two. If it's something that needs paint on both sides, I'll try to hang it from the rafters and paint it so I don't have to turn it over. I use to feel as you do, would rather have the chrome instead of painted bumpers. However, before I had a chance to paint my bumpers, I found a nice re chromed front bumper for my coupe on ebay several years ago. Lucked out and got it for about $65 or so including shipping because only two of use were bidding on it. That was also back in my sniping days. My rear bumper is not too bad so I can let it slide for sometime. That said after seeing so many street rods and customs at various shows, I've come to sort of liking the painted bumpers that are the same color as the car. Quote
Normspeed Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Posted May 26, 2008 Here's how it looks now. I like it, and it will look even better on that faraway day when the bodywork and paint are done. I plan to go with John Deere Blitz Black. Quote
55 Fargo Posted May 26, 2008 Report Posted May 26, 2008 Normspeed, I want top do something like this on my bumpers, how did you do the initial prep,does all the chrome have to come off..............Fred Quote
Dennis Hemingway Posted May 26, 2008 Report Posted May 26, 2008 That paint job on the bumper does look good. Normspeed had just put the bumper on before he came to the car show in the high desert. Dennis:D Quote
mackster Posted May 26, 2008 Report Posted May 26, 2008 Here's how it looks now. I like it, and it will look even better on that faraway day when the bodywork and paint are done. I plan to go with John Deere Blitz Black. The rattle can man, can do what he can, with just a can and can do it well, like no one can. looks great norm. that's the shot people will see when you passed them up in overdrive at the races!!!!!!! Quote
Normspeed Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Posted May 26, 2008 Fred, the chrome was peeling off and the bumper was so rusty in spots that I used a drill with sanding disks to clean off the rust and to scuff the remaining chrome that I left on. I wore a paper breathing filter for that. Then I hit it with a few coats of Rustoleum light gray primer, dry sanding between coats with 320 or 400 wetordry. That helped to cover the marks left by the sanding disks. Then the metallic Rustoleum. One light coat and at least one really heavy coat for gloss. This stuff dries fairly tough but you need to let it sit untouched to cure for a week or more. I found that with all the coats I ended up with after changing from black to silver, Even an overnight cure was not nearly enough. If you handle it before it cures hard, you can wrinkle it or leave fingerprints in the finish. I don't know how it will last in the long run but it will need to get pretty nasty before it looks worse than the paint on the car:D Here are the numbers, Rustoleum Professional primer, #7582 gray Rustoleum Metallic brilliant metal finish, #7250 Black Night metallic Rustoleum Metallic brilliant metal finish, Silver Metallic (forgot to write down the #) This stuff is different from the rustoleum metallic paint they call Chrome. The chrome is really just aluminum paint and not recommended for outdoor use. The stuff I used has a lot of fine prism type metalflake in it. Looks good in the sunlight. The last shot is where I was feathering out the only ding I picked up in the black, after a fair amount of use. You can see the sctratch marks from the disk sander in the underlying metal. I wouldn't recommend doing this treatment to any bumper that had a chance of rechroming. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 26, 2008 Report Posted May 26, 2008 I will admit to liking the silver better..defines the car as a work of art and not a blob of similar color material...now what about them tailgate hinges...silver??? Quote
Normspeed Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Posted May 26, 2008 Maybe body color but with new stainless steel bolts... Quote
Grandadeo Posted May 27, 2008 Report Posted May 27, 2008 As I said in my email earlier, Imagine what kind of work you'll turn out when you have a real garage to work in not just a driveway with a canopy. Lee Quote
Normspeed Posted May 27, 2008 Author Report Posted May 27, 2008 My son in NM is about to get some great birthday and Christmas gifts from me...a welder, big compressor, DA sander, spray guns... Quote
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