Don Coatney Posted April 10, 2008 Report Posted April 10, 2008 Todd at Technostalgia sent me a prototype of his new P-15 trunk mounted brake light for a test fit. I did the test fit and it fits like a glove. This new light has the Plymouth ship raised in the lens much like the original. It looks great. I also bench tested the light and it has the rapid flash option same as the tail lights. It is really good to finally see someone reproducing parts for a P-15. Tony Urwin is doing a test fit for the coupe version of this light fixture. Quote
martybose Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Great news, I hope that Tony Urwin's test fit works as well, as that's the one that I placed on order with Todd last week! Marty Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Posted April 11, 2008 I asked Technostolgia if they had plans for 6 volt positive ground light fixtures. Todd responded a few minutes ago that they are working on such. This should be good news for all still running 6 volt systems. Not sure how the POC will reract to this. The new LED lights are much brighter than the original incandescent bulbs and offer the rapid fire option that blinks the brake lights three times rapidly as soon as power is applied from the brake light switch. I would think this is a major safety upgrade same as seat belts and no points would be deducted. But that is my opinion. Any POC members have thoughts on this? Quote
Ed Griffin Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don, have they said anything about making the same lights for the D24's? They sure look sweet new like that. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don, The POC rules are based on the Purest side so I would bet they would deduct points in a show for the lights. Not so much for the use of LED bulbs but for the bezel. First it's not pot metal, it's plastic. Second, the original bezels have no gasket showing around the edges. Third, the use of a plastic lens instead of glass. Like you I'm no judge either, but that would be my guess. Even though the bezels look good and are close they are different in that way. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Posted April 11, 2008 First it's not pot metal' date=' it's plastic. .[/quote']Not true. The bezel is metal. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Not true. The bezel is metal. Sorry about that, was under the assumption that it was all plastic. However, that gasket showing is not the original look. So, they may still count that off. Quote
Young Ed Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don if Todd sends me a set before July I could find out Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don if Todd sends me a set before July I could find out Ask him. If you get them to pass POC inspection he will be happy. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 regardless of non-stock, there is always room for improvement and the addition of a base gasket of beaded rubber will ALWAYS enhance the car's appearance.. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Posted April 11, 2008 regardless of non-stock, there is always room for improvement and the addition of a base gasket of beaded rubber will ALWAYS enhance the car's appearance.. Actually the base is made from a semi-pliable molded plastic material. It is soft enough to not scratch paint. The base is what duffers from the coupe and sedan fixtures. The metal piece will work on either base and the electricals are the same. These lights are made very well and when mounted on the car they look like they grew there. Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don't get me wrong, I wasn't downing the looks of the bezels because you could see the gasket. Personally, I see nothing wrong with it as it does keep the water out from behind the bezel. I was just pointing the difference out as being something a POC judge could knit pick at and deduct points. Quote
toddbracik Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 Don, have they said anything about making the same lights for the D24's? They sure look sweet new like that. Hi Ed, I asked technostalgia awhile back about the Leds for the D24 and they said they are not available and they are not on the bench either for development. Even talked to Ed at shiny-hiney.com and they are not developing them either. They would probably sell if someone would just make em for d24's. Todd Bracik. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 same thing they told me while back when I contacted them..I even offered a set up front for molds...maybe in time...more Plymouths go the street rod path than the Dodge..and most folks will not consider a non stock item if they show the car, so based on that they may be reluctant to make these..very limited market would be their excuse. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Posted April 11, 2008 One of our forum members bought the "guts" only from them and modified them to work in his 50's Plymouth. How much difference is there between the D-24 and P-15 bezels? Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted April 11, 2008 Report Posted April 11, 2008 One of our forum members bought the "guts" only from them and modified them to work in his 50's Plymouth. How much difference is there between the D-24 and P-15 bezels? Actually Don, if you look at the D24 tail light and the P15 tail light bezels there isn't much difference except I believe the reflector is on top of the bezel of the D24. So it shouldn't be too hard to adapt the guts of the P15 tail light to the d24 bezel. Now, the center trunk stop light is a different story. The d24 is a rectangle shape stop light bezel. Quote
RHDSP15C Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 Australian cars with Body by Richards had a rubber molded "stop light shim ", part # 467194 exactly the same as this new one. Also they had rubber gaskets on the tail lights as well. Disappointed that this new stop light is not available for the D25 and the SP15. Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 Attached are pics of the actual guts of the lights. As you can see they are actually pretty small, and with a little ingenuity and care I think you can use them in any light fixture. It was I who did it my 52 Plymouth, and those bezels are rather small. YOU CAN DO IT !!!!! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 the standard light on these babies are still very adequate..the big deal is finding a nice set of bezels at what is considered a reasonable cost..the items these guys are marketing fill the ticket completely...nice shiney new metal, excellent gaskets, modern hi tech lamps with safety features..only whish these were available for the Dodge Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 I'm sorry but I disagree. Adequate is not what I am looking for. This car gets driven alot, day and night. With only two tail small tail lamps on my 52, compared to the light shows newer cars now display at night, I'm happy to have the LEDs lit up. Not sure if the D24 or Plymouth's third brake light is also a running light or not, but when I start wiring mine, it will be. Having said, it would be very nice if they offered the set up for the Dodges. I thought there were more Dodges than Plymouths of those years? Maybe keep asking them? Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 Course, to be honest, I have never seen the tail lights of P-15 or D24 lit up at night yet.... I just know on my 52 Plymouth, it needed the lights. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 Unlike the predecessors the P15 and D24 the P23 has plastic lenses. The P15 and D24 are lacking, they do not have a reflective enclosed housing. I do not find the P23 to be in the same catagory. Being plastic they are not dim when lit. At least mine lenses are clear. I also have a a set of glass replacements, set of glass with blue dots and the very hard to find glass front lenses that are amber... Upgrading your bulbs is a smart move and I am not knocking your method or reasons. Safety is your first concern..will never condem anyone for that..I will also add a third eye level third light to my P22 and P23..with the third light..I think you will be up to parr.. My comment was based mainly on the rough looking condition of the average P15 and D24 bezels with the darker glass and non reflective open backs Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 Yes, after thinking more about it, I figured out you were talking about the P15 and D24, and not so much the P23. My mistake. It would still be nice it they made them for the Dodge. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Posted April 12, 2008 Not sure if the D24 or Plymouth's third brake light is also a running light ? I have my P-15 original trunk light wired with a dual element bulb for both brake and running light duty. The new light assemblies are also wired for dual service. Course, to be honest, I have never seen the tail lights of P-15 or D24 lit up at night yet.... I just know on my 52 Plymouth, it needed the lights. Here is a before and after picture. The trunk light is old style in all the pictures. After. Quote
Don Coatney Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Posted April 12, 2008 Here is a bench test of the new brake light. The camera was not quick enough to pick up all 3 rapid fire blinks. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/Lights/?action=view¤t=blink.flv Quote
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