1950 Plymouth special clutch replacement issue

[CC7]

Hi there, currently replacing the clutch on my 1950 Plymouth, bought all the parts from Bernbaums( clutch disc asssembly, clutch cover and pressure plate assembly, release bearing assembly, pilot bushing, clutch release pullback spring and clutch release bearing and sleeve) 

 

the issue I have is this, the new carrier that came is larger in diameter (the spigot is also longer) the new bearings are too small for the new carrier so I could only fit the new bearings to the old carrier with the new friction plate and pressure plate. The issue in doing that is when reassembled the thrust bearing sits too far away from the pressure plate forks and won’t engage in the gear correctly and makes a whining noise.  I’m guessing I need a new bearing that should be larger I’m diameter and sits deeper than the ones I ordered. Spoke to Bernbaum’s and they say that there is only one. The picture below shows the one that came out the car on the left and the new one on the right.

 

has anyone else had this sort of issue?  Any help or info is appreciated, many thanks.

 

Chris

Scotland

 

 

[Sniper]

Any numbers on those bearings? 

 

Digging thru my parts book it looks like there were two possible setups, with or without fluid drive.

 

part number 867734 if for fluid drive, link below shows one

 

https://www.hiltopautoparts.com/product/nos-mopar-clutch-throw-out-bearing-sleeve-1941-54-chrysler-desoto-dodge-models-with-fluid-drive/

 

The other is without fluid drive, 862859 part number , link below shows one of these.

 

https://www.hiltopautoparts.com/product/nos-mopar-clutch-throw-out-bearing-sleeve-1941-56-most-dpcd-models/

[kencombs]

The one on the right looks like a truck carrier.  Takes a much larger bearing

[Doug&Deb]

No fluid drive in Plymouth in 50.

[Sniper]

53 minutes ago, Doug&Deb said:

No fluid drive in Plymouth in 50.

Yes, I know.  But the only two possibilities in the parts book for 1950 pass cars was fluid drive or not.  Obviously he didn't get what he needed which left the possibility someone may have sent an FD on instead.  But I don't know the actual differences, which is why I asked for the bearing numbers, if any.

[CC7]

Thank you for the replies, Sniper you called it correctly.  Did some research online and got the parts numbers, I have been sent the fluid drive sleeve instead of the correct one I needed for my 50.

 

many thanks for that quick reply you’ve saved me a lot of hassle!

 

 

[Dodgeb4ya]

Burn bomb does it again.

Stupid.