Los_Control Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 Trying to stay on topic .... about buying steel line. My example above was my first attempt at making a circle with the new tool I have, and first attempt at making a circle. We all need a good laugh With practice I might be able to do better. I know I can easily make a large circle, that would look stupid. Problem is shoving too much metal (shrinking) in to small of a area. Possibly could try filling the tube with sand & pack it tight. Then when bending it might not kink on a tight circle? I could play with it and make a few different attempts. Back on topic, I have 9' of 5/16" steel line, just enough for the fuel line. My local brick & mortar stores are done with steel line. I am now forced to order online to finish rest of my lines. So I will order the nicop which is what I want. The smallest roll is 25', that's plenty to do the fuel line and finish the brakes and a little extra for future use. Kinda sucks I need to order 25' of the smaller size to go across the rear axle. I will use it on other projects ... wife car needs transmission lines made. So even though I have steel line to do the fuel system ... I'm not going to use it. I am just done with steel line. We have a better product available and it seems reasonably priced at $40 for 25'. The tool actually is pretty cool in my mind. I can clamp it in a vise to hold it and use both hands to manipulate the line and then a wrench to bend it. Really get pretty precise bends. It will do a 6" circle, just not good at a 3" circle ... SS would be no problem with a 1/2" breaker bar and a 3' cheater handle Quote
Merle Coggins Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 20 hours ago, Los_Control said: Trying to stay on topic .... about buying steel line. My example above was my first attempt at making a circle with the new tool I have, and first attempt at making a circle. We all need a good laugh With practice I might be able to do better. When I was making new brake lines for my truck I needed to make a loop in the line coming out of the master cylinder. I found a piece of heavy pipe with the proper outer diameter. I clamped it in a vice and gently wrapped the brake line around the pipe by hand. It turned out much better than I expected. 1 Quote
Los_Control Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 Thats a pretty good tip @Merle CogginsI can see how you can keep a good shape that way ... will give it a try. The idea with filling it with sand, comes from a tip I got years ago. Building a frame for a canvas top using electrical conduit. A guy who did it, did not have a conduit bender. So he filled with sand and was able to bend it with no kinks. I had access to a conduit bender, so did not try it myself. But thought it might be worth a try to transfer the idea to brake line to make the loop. Quote
JBNeal Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 additional information - steel tubing bender Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Posted August 15, 2021 That is a nice bender. I like the polypropylene wheels and the screw mechanism. Sand in the line for bending. I may try that myself. I finished putting it back together. Tried to keep the lines as far away from the manifold as I could. It’s better than how it was and I never had vapor lock before. Always scary for me are the brass fittings going into both sides of the fuel pump. I hate when you have to go one more revolution for the elbows to get snug to line up with the in/outgoing fuel lines. Always afraid of cracking the housing. Tomorrow I will add the gas and see if the engine starts and check for leaks. Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Posted August 16, 2021 Gas added and the fuel pump was slow to push gas into the empty carb bowl so I popped it off and primed it. I made sure accelerator pump worked and float/needle valve were not stuck. After replacing the top of the carb it fired right up. It had ran smooth but not quite at idle. Here’s the problem: I had gas bubbling up at top of the intake manifold gaskets up against the block. I shut it down. When the engine cools just a bit more I will pop the carb off. I did notice when I removed the carb 3 days ago there was gas underneath sitting in the intake. I didn’t think too much of that but maybe I need to rebuild the carb instead of cleaning only. If I saw small bubbling against the gaskets and block should I consider retorking the manifold bolts? Otherwise success and one small weep of the new line/ fitting coming out of the fuel pump. Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Posted August 16, 2021 Just popped the carburetor off and it’s damp underneath only. I’m scratching my head. Carb was dry on the outside with no leaks while running. The base gasket was dry as well. Maybe I need to start a new topic on the carb issue now Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Posted August 17, 2021 The carb is recleaned and adjusted and runs great. The lines and fittings are dry. No leaks. Line going into the carb from the filter has been gently adjusted away from the manifold. Fuel circuit completed and the truck starts for the first time from a gas tank since 1987. However, now I have to remove the manifolds as I have an intake leak between #2-3 cylinders. Rats. Anyway, success and thanks for the advice you guys have given! Quote
JBNeal Posted August 18, 2021 Report Posted August 18, 2021 Excellent news on your progress...of course, we never seem to stop working on these old buggies, we just take a break every once in a while from fiddlin' with something Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 19, 2021 Author Report Posted August 19, 2021 Yeah. What started out as a good cleaning ended up being a ton of work. WTH. Anyway, I got the manifold bolts loose today and after removing the carburetor a 4th time, I need to buy a rebuild kit. I’m thinking of contacting Mr Guru George about fixing the exhaust manifold once and for all. I’m on the fence about the dual intake. I’ll think on it. The talk about the dual port Weber carb is rattling around back of my head but I still am a romantic and would think it cool to have two carter b&b’s sitting under the hood. Ha Quote
bkahler Posted August 19, 2021 Report Posted August 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Rodney_Hamon said: ....... I’m thinking of contacting Mr Guru George about fixing the exhaust manifold once and for all. I’m on the fence about the dual intake. I’ll think on it. The talk about the dual port Weber carb is rattling around back of my head but I still am a romantic and would think it cool to have two carter b&b’s sitting under the hood. Ha I've got George's dual intake and am quite please with it. Have not run the engine yet but that should be happening sometime this fall. 1 Quote
Rodney_Hamon Posted August 19, 2021 Author Report Posted August 19, 2021 Oh...that looks great! My manifold was butchered from the beginning and my dad and I put it on back in ‘75 very dissatisfied but that’s then. Now that its removed I am having a helluva time finding a machine shop to resurface the manifolds together. I will never be able to separate them at this point without major headaches. I put a starret straitedge on it and it’s out of true. Man...that looked good. Quote
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